Should flag burners lose citizenship?
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No, anyone that believes they should does not understand the Constitution. Unsurprisingly, the president-elect does not understand this.
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I remember back before the election when people told me this kind of thing wouldn't happen and I said he would advocate for removing people's rights.
No. You should not lose citizenship and it should also not be illegal. It is a protected form of expression that has twice been upheld by the Supreme Court. I don't like it and would never do it, but if I restricted everything I don't like I'd be in trouble.
No. You should not lose citizenship and it should also not be illegal. It is a protected form of expression that has twice been upheld by the Supreme Court. I don't like it and would never do it, but if I restricted everything I don't like I'd be in trouble.
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Supreme Court does not know how to read. Speech is protected, not "expression". If the founding fathers believed expression should be protected, they would have said so.
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If the founding fathers had wanted us to have paper money, they wouldn't have only left the option of minting coins in the Constitution.
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As the late Justice Scalia said in 2015,
“If it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag... But I am not king.”
Whether we like it or not, there is a right to freedom of expression, and the Supreme Court has upheld this right in the past. I can't see the Supreme Court ever allowing such a prohibition, I'm pretty sure both conservative and liberal justices would agree on this one.
“If it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag... But I am not king.”
Whether we like it or not, there is a right to freedom of expression, and the Supreme Court has upheld this right in the past. I can't see the Supreme Court ever allowing such a prohibition, I'm pretty sure both conservative and liberal justices would agree on this one.
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It cannot be enforced if it is still on the books as the Supreme Court has twice ruled that such a law is unconstitutional.
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Yes because burning the nation's flag to me is tantamount to renouncing citizenship anyway, or worse, declaring yourself an enemy of the nation.
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If you're going to take it literally, I'm going to take it literally. The Constitution gives the government the ability to mint. Minting has to do with coins and is not related to paper money which is printed. Since it doesn't mention printing paper money, we have to assume by your own standard that paper money is unconstitutional.
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Even originalists (like Scalia) look at both the Constitution and its historical context, the intent of the framers, commentators and the legislative history. Originalism does not mean ripping the Constitution out of its surroundings and the thoughts of the framers.
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