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She Died & Met God

Discussion in 'Non-Mainstream and Controversial Science' started by JohnEmmett, Nov 23, 2021.

  1. JohnEmmett

    JohnEmmett Well-Known Member

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    Penny's Near Death Experience


    Beyond the Brain pdf
    The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death
     
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  2. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    Near death ≠ death

    Hint: the clue is in 'Near'.
     
  3. JohnEmmett

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    are you nearly listening?
     
  4. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    If you're nearly saying something worth nearly listening to.
     
  5. JohnEmmett

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    well you could benefit from what she is saying
     
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  7. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    Just another 'NDE'... I've heard so many; often with characteristic hypoxia and/or similarities to drug-induced effects, especially time distortion, intense, vivid experiences, and/or feelings of deep significance and emotion.
     
  8. JohnEmmett

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    you will have your own someday
     
  9. Bradskii

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    On the assumption that people the world over experience NDEs, what if the person is a Hindu. Who does she meet in the hereafter?

    Edit: Here's a comparison between western and Japonese NDEs: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi-84agwK_0AhXd9nMBHcwxAwMQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/wp-content/uploads/sites/360/2017/01/NDE76-Japanese-and-western-JNDS.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0xmoGjOZ0v5ot1Ia6hPzNL

    The commonality seems to be the presence of a bright light. Whilst everything associated with that is culturally determined.
     
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  10. JohnEmmett

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    Sadhguru Demystifies Near-Death Experiences

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  11. JohnEmmett

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    … listening to gurus… is frustrating
     
  12. JohnEmmett

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    "To summarize, we found almost all the elements observed in Western NDEs to have been present also in Japanese NDEs. Thus, Japanese NDEs appear to be phenomenologically very similar to Western NDEs."

    - Ohkado & Greyson
     
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  13. Lost4words

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    Thanks for sharing. Made me think...
     
  14. .Mikha'el.

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    It's an anecdote in support of the idea of the Judeo-Christian God. It's hardly objective evidence or proof.
     
  15. JohnEmmett

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    rather it is evidence and proof
     
  16. Bradskii

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    Yeah. That's what I said. The bright light, the feeling of peace, the warm and comforting environment (the phenomena) - they're all there. How they are interpreted is culturally determined. Americans are very religious so they describe it as a religious experience. The Japanese are not - so they don't. So what an NDE 'means' is entirely dependent on who you ask.

    It's impossible to know but I'd be astonished if the experience wasn't very similar in any given animal with a certain amount of cerebral processing power. So a chimp or a dolphin would have their equivalent NDEs.
     
  17. JohnEmmett

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    basically it means… there is an afterlife
     
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  18. Bradskii

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    Lucky us.
     
  19. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    That would be cool... although I'd rather not be in that situation.
     
  20. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    Wow, you mean like dreams mean there are other dimensions?
     
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