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Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by Open Heart, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. Open Heart

    Open Heart Well-Known Member

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    ChavaK was asking me to share about my Scottish ancestry, and I thought, Hmmmmm, maybe it would be fun for all of us to share our little tales. I'll start, and then all of you can add yours.

    I should start of by saying that 99.9% of my ancestors are just normal folks, average Joe's like me. Nothing to really write home about. It's just this .1% that is incredible. Because with each generation our family tree expands exponentially, they say that *everyone* has cool stuff in their family tree. It's just being lucky enough to find it. But finding a King or saint or whatever seems actually to be a common thing. In fact, there are some 16 million descendents of genghis khan--not me, though :) . I'll be interested in seeing all of your own stories.

    I began by tracing back a Scottish branch of my family known by the name of Abernathy. It turns out that they were once a powerful clan aristocracy in Scotland, but the Clan was destroyed by Robert the Bruce. You remember all those naughty aristocrats in "Braveheart" who sided with England? Well the Abernathy Lords were the chief culprits. Bad, nasty, traitor Abernathy's! The men were immediately executed, and the women were married off into other clans such as the Frasers and Leslies. My line became part of clan Leslie. Thus was the end of clan Abernathy.

    Hundreds of years later, in the 1651 Battle of Worcester, Robert Abernathy fought as a Captain (meaning the family had regained some sort of aristocratic title) under Lord Leslie, who was the chief commander in Scotland. The battle was lost, and its leaders imprisoned in the Tower of London to await execution, including Robert. Thankfully, his execution was commuted, and he was sent instead as an indentured servant to the American colonies. There he worked hard until he gained his freedom. He married, and the rest, as they say, is history. Re: The first Robert Abernathy - Genealogy.com

    The history of the Abernathy line is interesting. It goes back through Malcolm of Abernathy -- you remember him from Shakespeare's Macbeth. His wife was Margaret, who was canonized a Saint; while Malcolm turned a blind eye, she drained the treasury dry giving to the poor.

    Before Malcolm, the records pretty much vanish, but we know that the line was established by King Orn of the Picts who resisted the Romans. He was temporarily exiled and met St. Brigit of Ireland, who converted him to Christianity. He returned to Scotland and, and who built the very first Church at Abernathy. His sons after him were known by that geographical designation. Thus began the clan of Abernathy.
     
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  2. rockytopva

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    My family is scottish and my grandfather use to call me, "Little MacDoogle."
     
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  3. Heber Book List

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    In the 1700s a whole generation of my family has Jewish first names so it makes one wonder why that was. Did they change their surname in the persecution in the UK, after the apparent good times?

    Coming a bit nearer in time, my paternal grandmother, about whom we know almost nothing, was a seamstress in Finchley / Southgate area of London (where many Jews used to live) where my family used to live. She was baptised at the age of 12, which is really odd, given that in the late 1800s many children died quite young and so were usually baptised soon after birth. We wonder whether her parents were Jews and / or that she was adopted and, instead of a bat-mitvah at the age of 12, she was baptised, maybe with a new surname to protect her / her parents. Her first name was Minnie and her surname was a name often used by Jews coming to England and changing their name.

    We will never know, for sure, as there are no official records about her, that we could find, and she was never spoken about whilst my mum and dad were alive. All we have found is a Census form that shows that she was self employed as a seamstress, and a baptism document.
     
  4. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    I trace my family history all the way back to the most famous Scottish clan ever.

    McDonald's...
     
  5. Heber Book List

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    Fast food empire?
     
  6. Open Heart

    Open Heart Well-Known Member

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    That's very, very interesting!
     
  7. Open Heart

    Open Heart Well-Known Member

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    LOL cool any interesting stories?
     
  8. gadar perets

    gadar perets Messianic Hebrew (Non-trinitarian)

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    I have not done a full search on ancestry.com, but I'm pretty sure my ancestors were on Noah's ark! (I mean the people, not the monkeys :monkeyface:). Family rumors have it that we actually go all the way back to Adam and Eve!!! If you could see a picture of me, I'm sure you would see the resemblance.
     
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  9. JackRT

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    I am a MacDonald of Clan Ranald and trace to the Island of South Uist in the Hebredies. Everyone there is fair skinned, frequently with an abundance of freckles and red hair. Also shortish and rather stocky. My branch however is tall, slim and black haired. I suspect a Spaniard in the woodpile dating from the wreck of The Spanish Armada. I am seriously considering DNA testing to confirm that suspicion.
     
  10. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    I get free McChicken burgers every Thursday!
     
  11. Heber Book List

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    When I was born the Dead Sea was only poorly :) :)
     
  12. chunkofcoal

    chunkofcoal Messianic Christian

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    My 5th great grandfather, Vardemon "Vardy" Navarrh Collins, is considered the Patriarch of a group of unknown origin called the "Melungeons" which settled in east Tennessee, western North Carolina, and southern Virginia. Olive skinned, with black hair and blue eyes, the original Melungeons were listed on census records as "Free Persons of Color"; they claimed to be Portuguese, but Vardy's wife (my 5th great grandmother) was known as "Spanish Peggy". There have been a lot of articles and books written about the Melungeons, with theories of their origin ranging from descendants of early Spanish explorers, to Phoenicians, shipwrecked pirates, tri-racial isolates ( a mix of European, African and American Indian), early Muslim settlers, and a lost tribe of Israel.
    It's been interesting reading about my ancestors! lol!

    Melungeon - Wikipedia
     
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  13. Open Heart

    Open Heart Well-Known Member

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    That's fascinating
     
  14. Heber Book List

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    In the 1700s a whole generation of my family has Jewish first names so it makes one wonder why that was. Did they change their surname in the persecution in the UK, after the apparent good times?

    Coming a bit nearer in time, my paternal grandmother, about whom we know almost nothing, was a seamstress in Finchley / Southgate area of London (where many Jews used to live) where my family used to live. She was baptised at the age of 12, which is really odd, given that in the late 1800s many children died quite young and so were usually baptised soon after birth. We wonder whether her parents were Jews and / or that she was adopted and, instead of a bat-mitvah at the age of 12, she was baptised, maybe with a new surname to protect her / her parents. Her first name was Minnie and her surname was a name often used by Jews coming to England and changing their name.

    We will never know, for sure, as there are no official records about her, that we could find, and she was never spoken about whilst my mum and dad were alive. All we have found is a Census form that shows that she was self employed as a seamstress, and a baptism document.

    ADDED: I have now found our family Bible and have discovered something else interesting, about which I had no knowledge - my father had a brother, his mother's first born. I decided to look through the Bible, page by page, and see what was in it (apart from the texts). I discovered that there were several points at which the initials of my father's brother had been written in the margin, and verses marked; on a few occasions his father's initials were written as well. There was also a small handmade bookmark, placed at the beginning of Deuteronomy, with the words 'Precious Blood' and his initials, crocheted and stuck onto a piece of linen. The really interesting bit is that not one of the margin initials is in the Christian Testament!
     
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  15. JackRT

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    I am a MacDonald of Clan Ranald. We made our ancestral home in the Hebredies off the west coast of Scotland. My family were crofters (share croppers) on the island of South Uist. By the late 18th century we were a defeated oppressed people reduced to share cropping our own land. The crofters were staunch Roman Catholics while the land owners were Protestant (mostly Church of Scotland). They determined that running sheep would be far more profitable than letting the land out to share croppers so they had to get rid of the crofters. This began with religious persecution. Bully boys were hired to intercept the crofters on their way to mass on Sundays and force them to attend Protestant services. Finally in the early 1770s they simply ordered all the crofters from their land. Like share croppers everywhere, they were impoverished and virtually destitute. In the case of my family, the parish priest came from a very well-to-do family. He used his financial resources to charter and provision a ship and to purchase the necessities to settle in a new land for his entire congregation. They landed in 1772 on Prince Edward Island in what is now Canada.
     
  16. Laureate

    Laureate whatisthebaytreeknown4? What's debate reknown for?

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    You beat me to the punch, I was intending to drop something along those lines, yet I'm certain it was not going to be as colorful as heaven served it through you.
     
  17. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    I have relatives that have gotten into the family tree on both sides of the tree for me. I have learned that my grandfather was a bootlegger across the Canadian border into the USA during prohibition with booze from his still.

    One branch of my family fled the civil war to North Dakota then into Canada. Great aunt Mod could ride a galloping mule side saddle and jump fences. It was in North Dakota during Custer's last stand that they were also traveling. Great Grandpa has bought a Cherokee wife with six horses. They had grandpa as an infant with them when a great war party was heading towards fixing Custer's wagon. Being fearful that they might be of a not friendly mood to see them, they hid in the woods. They covered the grandpa's mouth to keep from being detected. It also most killed him.

    I learned also the we are related to Morgan the Pirate.

    We also have a naval navigator aboard Captain Cook's ship. The reason for finding out this was because my grandfather received a letter from England during the great depression. In it was the outline of a will. The last of the navigator's family tree had whittled down to his branch and he was required to go to England to claim the inheritance, castle and property. Since grandpa didn't have two nickles to rub together, he went to the bank to ask for the money it would take to go to England to claim his inheritance. The bank turned him down. Hence the Queen procured it for her cofferes.

    Those are the stories I remember about some of my family tree members.
     
  18. Heber Book List

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    Depending on the when last paragraph actually happened, I think you might find that any funds left in the UK go to the Treasury or to the Crown, not the holder of the Crown; the same with property. Normally, lawyers will advance the funds in a case like that, so that the inheritance can be claimed, and then charge it to the Estate. Bit late to sue them, now, though!!
     
  19. visionary

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    Great depression was in the 30's.
     
  20. Heber Book List

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    Yes, I know. It was your mention of the Queen that made me ask for clarity. The current Queen did not take up her Office until the early 50's. So which Queen are you referring to?
     
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