Sexual Preference

[Arcangl86]

*yawn*

This is getting very boring very fast. Your positions are not scriptural. If you don't have anything more valid to say then we are done here.

Fine. Show me in scripture where it says rape is ok if it is done to a woman. Because that was the abomination. You keep telling me that my positions are scriptural, but you can't support yours with scripture. Not a single place does it say that the very state of being attracted to the same gender is sinful.

 

[ewq1938]

Fine. Show me in scripture where it says rape is ok if it is done to a woman.

No. We aren't discussing rape of women.

Have you already forgotten what we actually are discussing or are red herrings the bulk of your position?

 

[Arcangl86]

No. We aren't discussing rape of women.

Have you already forgotten what we actually are discussing or are red herrings the bulk of your position?

You are the one who keeps refusing to show me Scripture saying the very state of being attracted to somebody of the same gender is sinful, so I wonder. And we were discussing the sins of sodom, which was rape. Unless you think that rape of men is somehow worst then rape of women.

 

[ewq1938]

You are the one who keeps refusing to show me Scripture saying the very state of being attracted to somebody of the same gender is sinful, so I wonder.

I have already proven homosexuality is wrong using the scriptures.

And we were discussing the sins of sodom, which was rape.

No, Sodom's sins are many, one of them being homosexuality. This thread is discussing that sin not any others, known as red herring fallacies.

We are now done talking.

 

[Armoured]

That's obviously wrong.

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination.


Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

And the NT continues to condemn the practice of homosexuality.

Homosexuality is same sex attraction. That's not what those verses say, is it?

 

[SkyWriting]

And you think Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because they forgot to pay their tax bill?

That's a great point. Is that how Jesus treated sinners He encountered?

 

[SkyWriting]

Some of those abominations were homosexual sex acts.

My cousin and her partner have 2 kids.
I have no idea if they have sex or not.

 

[SkyWriting]

I have already proven homosexuality is wrong using the scriptures.

These same scriptures say if you've lusted for a woman,
you have already committed adultery.

 

[ewq1938]

These same scriptures say if you've lusted for a woman,
you have already committed adultery.

google "red herring" so you can stop using it errantly.

 

[SkyWriting]

That's impossible.

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination.


Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

None of those are from the new testament.
Each of those refer to having multiple partners as being the "abomination".
There may be some abominations in your sex life right now.
Please detail your entire life sexual experience and after judging
what you've done, we can move on to my neighbor Rob.
I've lived across the street from Rob for 12 years and I have
no idea if he's had sex with anyone. Am I supposed to check
his bed sheets for evidence?

Is it the Christian thing for me to inquire about his sex life?
Is that what you'd like me to do?
(I daily drive 60 in a 55mph zone. The road is constructed of stones I could throw at Rob.)

 

[SkyWriting]

google "red herring" so you can stop using it errantly.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
I don't feel you qualify. Go and Sin no more.

 

[SkyWriting]

The only thing I can see as being ok for a homosexual is to not act on attraction or desires and always repent about having attraction to the same sex.

That's not an option. Just being attracted to somebody outside of marriage is adultery.
Try again.

 

[SkyWriting]

In the NT the very feminine aspect of male homosexuality is also condemned outside of also condemning sexual acts.

I don't have the time or inclination to watch my neighbors close enough
to monitor their sex lives. Nor do I ask them to do that unto me.

 

[SkyWriting]

Conveniently left out a verse?

Eze 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

Some of those abominations were homosexual sex acts.

Conveniently adding in content?

 

[SkyWriting]

I have already proven homosexuality is wrong using the scriptures.

Jesus forgives lots of sins.

 

[SkyWriting]

google "red herring" so you can stop using it errantly.

Don't try to change the subject.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

That's a great point. Is that how Jesus treated sinners He encountered?

He told them to go and sin no more. If you have homosexual desires and you repent of them and God gives you the victory over them, then you are no longer to be considered a homosexual... once Christ blots the stain, unless we fall back in to the sinful behaviour, we have gained the ascendancy and have put on the new man.

Look, I'm not saying homosexuality is any greater a sin than any other, but there is a defiant, militant, 'proud to be rebelling against Gods Will' vocal minority that is changing the fabric of not only your country by mine and many, many others. Look at what disregarding one of God's Commandments has led to... now blaspheming God name is common place, adultery is rampant and accepted in the church, covetousness and pride are at an epidemic level, kids have no repect for their parents and, thanx to belief in evolution, even the first two Commandments are openly and flagrantly being violated.... and no one cares. God will not save people in their sins, but from their sins.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

None of those are from the new testament.
Each of those refer to having multiple partners as being the "abomination".
There may be some abominations in your sex life right now.
Please detail your entire life sexual experience and after judging
what you've done, we can move on to my neighbor Rob.
I've lived across the street from Rob for 12 years and I have
no idea if he's had sex with anyone. Am I supposed to check
his bed sheets for evidence?

Is it the Christian thing for me to inquire about his sex life?
Is that what you'd like me to do?
(I daily drive 60 in a 55mph zone. The road is constructed of stones I could throw at Rob.)

No but you tell him the truth that if he is actively engaging in homosexual desires or acts that it is a sin against God. We should do this for anyone we care about and even those we don't know. Reproving of sin is a Biblical principle.... and I would hope if my people see or know of a behaviour that I am in rebellion against God with, that they will tell me.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I don't have the time or inclination to watch my neighbors close enough
to monitor their sex lives. Nor do I ask them to do that unto me.

Who is asking you to? You can go down to you local pride parade and witness to people that are openly declaring their rebellion and minister to them.

 

[ewq1938]

Who is asking you to? You can go down to you local pride parade and witness to people that are openly declaring their rebellion and minister to them.

It might be better if you clicked the reply button on each post then there will be the quote of who and what you are responding to.