Sexual Chastity and Liberals

[dreadnought]

The Lord taught us to be sexually chaste, but liberals seem to be promoting a message of sexual permissiveness. What do you think the Lord thinks of this?

 

[Not David]

The Lord taught us to be sexually chaste, but liberals seem to be promoting a message of sexual permissiveness. What do you think the Lord thinks of this?

I believe there is more proof that a celibate person can serve a better role in Christianity than a married one.

 

[dreadnought]

I believe there is more proof that a celibate person can serve a better role in Christianity than a married one.

Perhaps, but you don't have to be celibate to be sexually chaste.

 

[Paidiske]

I think the Lord wants us to focus on inviting people into relationship with Him. He can take it from there if he has issues with their sex lives; we don't need to make it our obsession.

 

[dreadnought]

I think the Lord wants us to focus on inviting people into relationship with Him. He can take it from there if he has issues with their sex lives; we don't need to make it our obsession.

But should't we be setting good examples?

 

[Paidiske]

But should't we be setting good examples?

Sure. But I guess my point is, what should we focus on? Introducing people to the love of God, or worrying about what they do in bed? I'd suggest that if we spend too much time and energy on the latter, we'll miss opportunities for the former.

 

[Sam91]

I believe there is more proof that a celibate person can serve a better role in Christianity than a married one.

I disagree but see your point.

I, however, consider how much more a husband and wife could do. I think of some older missionaries I have met who work in the middle east. There is a great impact of having a supportive partner helping. Holding each other up in prayer, intimately seeing the others needs. Praying together for the current situations.

However, back to the OP we are warned against all types of immorality. One wonders if people who say different read their Bibles.

 

[dreadnought]

Sure. But I guess my point is, what should we focus on? Introducing people to the love of God, or worrying about what they do in bed? I'd suggest that if we spend too much time and energy on the latter, we'll miss opportunities for the former.

I think we should prioritize obeying the Lord.

 

[dreadnought]

I disagree but see your point.

I, however, consider how much more a husband and wife could do. I think of some older missionaries I have met who work in the middle east.

[36] If any one thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed, if his passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry -- it is no sin.
[37] But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well.
[38] So that he who marries his betrothed does well; and he who refrains from marriage will do better. 1 Cor 7:36-38 RSV

 

[Not David]

Perhaps, but you don't have to be celibate to be sexually chaste.

Sure. Sexual purity is for everyone.

 

[Sam91]

[36] If any one thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed, if his passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry -- it is no sin.
[37] But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well.
[38] So that he who marries his betrothed does well; and he who refrains from marriage will do better. 1 Cor 7:36-38 RSV

Your point is?

 

[dreadnought]

Sure. But I guess my point is, what should we focus on? Introducing people to the love of God, or worrying about what they do in bed? I'd suggest that if we spend too much time and energy on the latter, we'll miss opportunities for the former.

Introducing people to the Lord is great. I am seeing pastors making a point of going in front of their congregations and stating there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

 

[Not David]

I disagree but see your point.

I, however, consider how much more a husband and wife could do. I think of some older missionaries I have met who work in the middle east. There is a great impact of having a supportive partner helping. Holding each other up in prayer, intimately seeing the others needs. Praying together for the current situations.

However, back to the OP we are warned against all types of immorality. One wonders if people who say different read their Bibles.

I agree that couple can do an excellent job in serving God, however, there might be the risk that one may concentrate more on the other's needs than God's.

 

[Paidiske]

I think we should prioritize obeying the Lord.

Yes; and so far I have not found the Lord usually wants me to worry too much about other people's sex lives. He seems to have led me to a "You catch 'em, he'll clean 'em," model of fishing for people.

 

[dreadnought]

Your point is?

That celibacy is preferable if one is in control of their passion.

 

[dreadnought]

Yes; and so far I have not found the Lord usually wants me to worry too much about other people's sex lives. He seems to have led me to a "You catch 'em, he'll clean 'em," model of fishing for people.

The Lord taught us that homosexuality is a sin. When pastors make a point of preaching that homosexuality is NOT a sin, you've got a problem.

 

[Paidiske]

Introducing people to the Lord is great. I am seeing pastors making a point of going in front of their congregations and stating there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

Well, that wouldn't be my approach either. But you asked what I thought, so I told you what I thought; we obsess too much about sex, and too little about proclaiming the good news.

If other pastors are preaching a message I consider poor, my job isn't to condemn them but to continue to be faithful to my own task.

 

[Sam91]

I agree that couple can do an excellent job in serving God, however, there might be the risk that one may concentrate more on the other's needs than God's.

There are equal risks with both. Especially when children are added to the mix.

However, when a couple serve the Lord together there is an advantage that the other can divert attention in turmoil back to the Lord where individually a person could be at a loss for longer.

Ecclesiastes 4:10

 

[TuxAme]

Sure. But I guess my point is, what should we focus on? Introducing people to the love of God, or worrying about what they do in bed?

If you're going to introduce people to the love of God, you're also responsible for telling them what God despises, and offering them the best possible way to live their lives (which God has given us).

 

[Sam91]

That celibacy is preferable if one is in control of their passion.

If all could do that the Church would have been fewer in number and all the devout would have had no offspring.

So rather those who are set apart to be so should be.

Another point. In having a partner one learns how to love others when they are at there most difficult. They can learn how to co-operate. They can learn how to keep focus on the Lord through distraction etc.