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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by val5662, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. val5662

    val5662 Junior Member

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    Hi all...
    Will the third temple in Jerusalem be built before the seven year peace plan is signed or somewhere within the first three and one half years?Please state where the scriptures are located in the KJV Bible where I can find this info ( IF there is any ).
    As of 2 April 2019 here is an update on the third temple building progress:
    ( NOTE: I do not agree with any "Rapture of the church" this video describes.This video is only meant to show you the building of third temple progress. )
    Billy Crone: The Third Temple and the Antichrist - The Prophecy Watchers
    ( I have no affiliation with the group in this video. )
    Thanks!
    Val
     
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  2. TribulationSigns

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    Nope!
     
  3. Mathetes66

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    Daniel 9:27 Seventy sevens are decreed FOR YOUR PEOPLE & YOUR HOLY CITY.

    What are the seventy sevens in Daniel 9:24-27?


    The ministry of Jesus from the start until His ascension was 3 1/2 years.

    How long was Jesus' ministry?

    That leaves 3 1/2 years for the times predicted in the prophets like Daniel & reiterated in the book of Revelations. You will only find a 3 1/2 year time period mentioned in Daniel & Revelation & other OT prophets, not 7 years.

    Times, Time, and Half a Time.

    times, time & 1/2 a time (Dan 7:25; 12:7; Rev 12:14) = 1260 days (Rev 11:3; 12:6) = 42 months (Rev 11:2; 13:5-7) = all the same time period.

    The temple & its utensils need to be rebuilt & the Sanhedrin re-established & the sacrificial system re-instituted. Guess what? This is already happening behind the scenes.

    Billy Crone: The Third Temple and the Antichrist - The Prophecy Watchers

    The Apostle Paul mentions that Christ will not return UNTIL 2 key things happen: the great falling away & the appearance of the man of sin, the final antichrist.

    I Thess 2:1-12 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means.

    For that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    Also the two candlesticks, the two witnesses that God has appointed will stand in Jerusalem during this time, prophesying & warning all.


    Rev 11:1-12 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod & the angel stood, saying, Rise & measure the temple of God & the altar & them that worship therein. 2But the court which is without the temple leave out & *MEASURE IT NOT; FOR IT IS GIVEN UNTO THE GENTILES & the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
    [*Dome of the Rock is on the court of the Gentiles]

    3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4These are the two olive trees & the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth & devoureth their enemies.

    And if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy & have power over waters to turn them to blood & to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

    7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, & shall overcome them & kill them. 8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom & Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    9And they of the people & kindreds & tongues & nations shall see their dead bodies three days & an half & shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them & make merry & shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

    11And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them & they stood upon their feet & great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud & their enemies beheld them.


    There are 3.5 years of tribulation at the end of which Christ returns and pours out 30 days of the vials of wrath followed by 45 days of preparation for the Holy City to be established.

    Daniel said so--

    Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
    Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
    Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
    Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
    Dan 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

    There is only 3.5 years of Tribulation.
     
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  4. TribulationSigns

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    Who are Daniel's people, really? And what Holy City is it? It's not the Jews and physical city of Jerusalem! Rather it is for ALL Elect in Christ from Old and New Testament congregation, Jews first, then the Gentiles. Not executively only for Jews and the middle eastern nation of Israel at all.
     
  5. Mathetes66

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    The burden of proof is on you to show it ISN'T the Israelites, since Daniel IS an Israelite & from one of the 12 tribes. Also Michael the archangel is THE archangel watching over the Israelites.

    Daniel continually talks about the Israelites throughout his book & his prayer of repentance is concerning the 70 year CAPTIVITY OF THE SOUTHERN KINGDOM OF ISRAEL!

    He mentions Jeremiah, another prophet of Judah, was the one that predicted the 70 years of captivity. Daniel himself was taken captive & taken to Babylon from Jerusalem!

    Daniel 1:1-6 In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim KING OF JUDAH, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came TO JERUSALEM & besieged it. 2And the Lord delivered into his hand Jehoiakim king of Judah, along with some of the articles FROM THE HOUSE OF GOD. He carried these off to the land of Shinar,a to the house of his god, where he put them into the treasury of his god.

    3Then the king ordered Ashpenaz, the chief of his court officials, to bring in SOME ISRAELITES from the royal family & the nobility— 4young men without blemish, handsome, gifted in all wisdom, knowledgeable, quick to understand & qualified to serve in the king’s palace—and to teach them the language & literature of the Chaldeans.

    5The king assigned them daily provisions of the royal food and wine. They were to be trained for three years, at the end of which they were to enter the king’s service. 6Among these young men were some FROM JUDAH: DANIEL, Hananiah, Mishael & Azariah.

    Jesus quoted from the book of Daniel & attributed the book to Daniel as the writer.
     
  6. TribulationSigns

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    Wrong. Daniel may be a Jew but he is only part of old testament congregation which is also an Elect in Christ. Michael the archangel is actually Jesus Christ himself, the guardian of His People, Israel. Not national Israel.

    You need to learn what is type and antitype. Yes, there were 70 years of captivity of Israel in Babylon, but it is pointing to something spiritual signification.
     
  7. keras

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    Yes, There will be a new Temple, dedicated to God, built in Jerusalem before Jesus Returns. He will reign from it during the Millennium. Revelation 5:10 [priests must have a place to serve God from]
    2 Thessalonians 2:4 and Revelation 11:1-2, plus many OT verses like Isaiah 56:1-8, Ezekiel chapters 40-46, make it certain that there will be a new Temple then.
    The OT also tell us who will build it. Zechariah 6:15

    For this present Church age, we Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God. 1 Peter 2:5 But this truth does not preclude a new, physical Temple built to the glory of God, in the end times.
     
  8. Douggg

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    There will be some sort of temple built. Likely downsized to get the animal sacrifices restarted as soon as possible.

    Regarding a peace plan. The confirming of the covenant in Daniel 9:27 is not a peace plan, but a big speech that the Antichrist will make from the temple mount that God gave the children of Israel the land of Israel as theirs forever. It was a law that Moses made for all future leaders of Israel to do so on a 7 year interval. Deuteronomy 31:9-13.

    Having said that, there still may be a peace plan of some sort to put Israel in the living in peace status in Ezekiel 38 right before the Gog/Magog attack. We will just have to see how things turn out.
     
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  9. Mathetes66

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    Sir, Jesus Christ is both God & man. He does not have the nature of angels but the nature of God & the nature of man. That is contrary to orthodox Christian teaching. You are writing in the WRONG FORUM.

    Hebrews 1:5-7 For unto WHICH OF THE ANGELS SAID HE AT ANY TIME, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a Son?

    And AGAIN, when He bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, He saith, And let ALL the angels of God WORSHIP HIM.

    7And OF THE ANGELS HE SAITH, Who MAKETH HIS ANGELS SPIRITS & HIS ministers a flame of fire.

    Jesus never was an angel by nature AT ANYTIME OR ANYWHERE. ALL THE ANGELS worship Jesus Christ, including Michael the archangel! Jesus Christ created ALL the angels. They serve Him & worship Him.

    Hebrews 2:5,9,10,14-17 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. 10For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

    Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

    16FOR VERILY HE TOOK NOT ON HIM THE NATURE OF ANGELS; BUT HE TOOK ON HIM THE SEED OF ABRAHAM. 17Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made LIKE HIS BRETHREN, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
     
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  10. Douggg

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    Mathetes66, it would be nice for others reading your post if you refer to the person you are replying to. In this case Tribulation Signs.

    In doing quotes, do you not know how to use type "quote'' in brackets at the beginning. and "/quote" in brackets at the end.
     
  11. Mathetes66

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    Thanks, Doug! It was early in the morning & I meant to put it in the threads quotes, but forgot. I will do it now as an edit. Your are a good man, brother! "Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another."
     
  12. LittleLambofJesus

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    Daniel 12 was fulfilled on OC 1st century Jerusalem and it's Temple and corrupt Priesthood

    Daniel 12:1 and Luke 21 same event?

    Daniel 12:1
    "And in that time/season Michael shall stand-up, the great chief prince, the one standing over sons of thy people. And a time of distress<06869>, which not occurred since to become of a nation until that time.
    And in that time, thy people shall escape<4422>, every of the one being found written in scroll. [Luke 21:23-36]
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    Luke says so right here:

    Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized
    Matt 24:17 "...woe to those who are pregnant and nursing in those days......

    Luke 21:23
    “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.
    36 “Yet be being vigilant/watching in every season, beseeching that ye[written in the book] should be being strong to be escaping<1628> all these, the being about to be becoming, and to stand before the Son of the Man.

    1 Thessalonians 5:3
    For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape<1628>.
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    https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html
    "..probably the greatest single slaughter in ancient history."
    ROMAN SIEGE AND SACK OF JERUSALEM


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  13. Berean Tim

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    Daniel 12 -1“At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.2And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above;a and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. 4But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.

    Daniel is the "time of the end". It has both resurrections. This could not be the 1st century unless you believe the resurrection is past.
     
  14. LittleLambofJesus

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    Hello BT.

    The time of the end for the Jewish OC age is this:[most scholars agree that Luke 21 is 70ad, but they never tried to tie it into Revelation as I have and that entails using the Greek.

    Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
    G1096 γίνομαι (ginomai), occurs 709 times in 636 verses

    Luke 21:7
    They inquire yet of Him saying “Teacher! when then shall these be?
    And what the sign whenever may be being about<3195> these to becoming<ginesqai<1096>?
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    Revelation 16:17 and Revelation 21:6 uses the same greek word #1096 used in Luke 21:7 upon the final destruction of OC Jerusalem and Temple

    Both of the verses are talking about the same event!!

    Revelation 16:17
    Then the seventh messenger poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the Sanctuary of the heaven, from the throne, saying,

    It hath become!<gegonen<1096>!

    Revelation 21:6
    And He said to me,

    It hath become!<gegonen<1096>!
    I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.

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    Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized

    Matt 24:6, Mar 13:7 and Luk 21:7 all have " but not as yet the End:

    Matthew 24:

    6 “Yet ye shall be being about to be hearing battles and hearings of battles, be seeing! be not be being troubled<2360>, for is binding to becoming,
    but not as yet the End
    <5056>
    Mark 13:7
    “Yet whenever ye should be hearing battles and hearings of battles, be seeing! be not be being troubled for is binding to be becoming,
    but not as yet the End<5056>.
    Luke 21:9
    “Yet whenever ye should be hearing battles and tumults<181>, no may be being frightened<4422>, for is binding these to be becoming,
    but not immediately the End<5056>
     
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  15. Berean Tim

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    To hold that is to hold that the resurrection (both) are past. This is a troubling position.
    Hebrews -
    28so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

    Jesus comes only twice. The second time "the dead in Christ rise first and we who all still alive are changed" this has not happened.

     
  16. LittleLambofJesus

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    Nope!

    (btw i love how you marked the guy's post a winner just for replying with a Nope!)

    Luke 21:25-28 NKJV
    25 "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring;
    26 men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken.
    27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
    28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."



    Most scholars are not full preterist. Verse 27 says people will literally see a physical Jesus coming in a cloud. Verse 28 reiterates that telling them to "look up" and see Jesus coming.


    LLoJ, you don't need it written in greek to tie Luke 21 to the book of Revelation. It's right in front of you if you know where to look in Revelation.
     
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  18. val5662

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    Mathetes66 and all...
    The next big event coming on this planet will be the "seven year peace plan" stated in Daniel 9:27
    Bible Gateway passage: Daniel 9:27 - King James Version
    You probably know the week mentioned here is one seven year period.
    This is the beginning of the seven year peace plan that Daniel prophesied.
    Three and one half years after the signing of the seven year peace plan is where Daniel 12:11 happens. Bible Gateway passage: Daniel 12:11 - King James Version
    If you need more proof that the 7 year peace plan is Biblical, here is the best video I have run into that explains it in detail.
    I recommend everybody to watch the complete video.
    Thanks!
    Val
     
  19. LittleLambofJesus

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    The next big events happened in the first century during the Jewish wars as prophecied by Jesus in the 70ad Temple discourse and culminating in it's final destruction in 70ad.........

    Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized

    All 3 mention the 70ad Temple, stones, stone upon stone- thrown down.......

    Only Matthew and Mark mention "buildings" #3619
    [These 3 verses in Matt and Mark are the only places in the Gospels plural "buildings" is used.]

    Matthew 24:1
    And Jesus coming out, departed from the Temple.
    And His Disciples approached Him to show to Him the buildings of the Temple.
    Mark 13:1
    And He going forth out of the Temple,
    one of His Disciples is saying to Him “Teacher! behold! what manner of stones and what manner of buildings
    Luke 21:5
    and of some saying concerning the Temple,
    that to goodly stones and votive-offerings<334> it has been adorned<2885>
     
  20. keras

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    No; there has to be many things happen before a 7 year peace treaty is made between the leader of the One World Govt and the leaders of the people living in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-5
    This Peace Plan of the Trump administration, will be just another incentive for the Islamic nations and groups to combine and attempt to destroy the Jewish State of Israel.
    Note; the Trump Plan has no time limit, so cannot be the one prophesied in Daniel.

    So the next prophesied event will be the Sixth Seal; Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath against the nations. Triggered by an attack on Israel as described in Psalms 83.
    This worldwide disaster will enable the establishment of the One World Govt, divided into 10 regions, each led by a President. Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12
     
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