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Featured Seven mountains and seven headed dragon

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by mathinspiration, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. mathinspiration

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    Rev 17:9-10 talks about seven mountains where seven kings will come from, is this talking about Roman Emperors or Chineses dynasties, seven kingdoms of China or Roman eras. Seven mountains are those of Rome and the five kings that have fallen are Julius Caesar, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, and Claudius. One who is now is Nero and one who will come will be future persecutor of Christians.
    Rev 13:1 Could the seven headed dragon could mean the seven warring kingdoms of ancient China (475 BC to 221 BC) before the first Chinese Emperor?
     
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  2. Revealing Times

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    Follow the bouncing ball.

    Who are the Seven Heads of the Beast? Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the coming Anti-Christ. So when the Angel REDUCES the Seven Heads to Seven Kings who have fallen by using Seven Mountains (Greek word - OROS one who has arisen above the plains) why would anyone think those Mountains would be in ONE PLACE? Look at the Seven Heads for the clue they can not be in any ONE PLACE. Its a false flag.

    There is no place with Seven Mountains that is being spoken of.
     
  3. Douggg

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    No, not Chinese connection. Everything is tied to the Romans. The fourth empire in Daniel 7 and 2. The prince who shall come in Daniel 9, from the people who destroyed the temple and city, the Romans.

    Basically, a way to think of it is that back when Jesus was crucified the counting of the 70 weeks of years (490 years) was put on hold. There are 7 years left. Which the 7 years begin with the world in the same situation as back in the first century.

    Israel a nation again. And the Roman Empire a force, with one last Caesar to go -who will be the little horn person as leader of the EU.

    The crowd shouted we have no King but Caesar on that day. So the counting begins again when a Caesar becomes the Jews King of Israel - from their own lips. The person of course also has to be Jew - which the norm is in Judaism that a person's mother has to be a Jew.

    Whether the person will have a name of Caesar or not is unclear. Nero was the last of the Julio-Claudian Kings at number 6.
     
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  4. Douggg

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    Seven kingdoms, each with a multitude of kings... wrong interpretation.

    The 7 mountains are one place - Rome
    7kings - 7 Roman Kings - related - Julio Claudians.
    1. Julius Caesar
    2. Augustus
    3. Tiberius
    4. Caligula
    5. Claudius
    6. Nero
    7. End times little horn
    Daniel 2 - fourth empire - Rome
    Daniel 7 - fourth empire - Rome
    Daniel 9 - people who destroyed the temple and city - Rome
    Daniel 7 - ten concurrent kings of the fourth empire - Rome - plus little horn

    The oceans, many waters - the world
     
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  5. God bless Joshua

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  7. Revealing Times

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    Wrong Douggg, this is just weird man.
     
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    You'll get it someday, when you figure out the person has to fulfill two tracks. (1) is to be the 7th in a family of kings to rule the fourth empire and finishes up as the 8th (2) and on the other track does things that makes the Jews think he is the messiah to become the King of Israel, the Antichrist, for a while.

    It is simple in concept, RT.

    1.Those verses in Revelation 17 and 13 are about the person on the King of the 4th kingdom track.

    2. The confirmation of the covenant and betrayal in 2Thessalonians2:4 are about the person on the Antichrist, King of Israel, for a while, track.
     
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  10. Douggg

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  11. Davy

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    It's about 8 kings. Don't forget verse 11 which mentions an 8th one.

    Five of the kings were past already in Apostle John's day. The 6th John said was in his days. The 7th was yet to come, pointing to the coming Antichrist at the end of this world.
     
  12. Douggg

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    pointing to the coming little horn.

    The little horn is the 7th king of the 4th empire, before the 7 years begin. Then the person moves into the Antichrist function is when the person becomes the King of Israel, for a while. Then he betrays the Jews. And finishes up as the 8th King of the 4th empire.
     
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  15. Davy

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    Yes, the "little horn" represents the coming Antichrist for the end of this world. It's referenced also in that Rev.17 chapter as the ten horns subject from the Book of Daniel is spoken of in the Rev.17:12.
     
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    Yes, the "little horn" represents the coming Antichrist for the end of this world. It's referenced also in that Rev.17 chapter as the ten horns subject from the Book of Daniel is spoken of in the Rev.17:12.
     
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    Yes, the "little horn" represents the coming Antichrist for the end of this world. It's referenced also in that Rev.17 chapter as the ten horns subject from the Book of Daniel is spoken of in the Rev.17:12.
     
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    Yes, the "little horn" represents the coming Antichrist for the end of this world. It's referenced also in that Rev.17 chapter as the ten horns subject from the Book of Daniel is spoken of in the Rev.17:12.
     
  19. God bless Joshua

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    The final beast is the Roman
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    The Little Horn of Daniel

    And John saw it again in the grief tribulation :
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    The beast with seven heads will appear at the end of time, the seven heads are seven kings from one body/religious institution, not from different kingdom.
    but its the 8th King who will rule in the tribulation.

    Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

    11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
    Revelation 17: Prophecy of the Seven Kings - 8th King Identified!
     
  20. God bless Joshua

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    Please read this link for your perusal :
    The Little Horn of Daniel
     
  21. Revealing Times

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    Mmmm no, we are told who the Seven Heads are.

    Rev. 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece), and his feet were as the feet of a bear(Persia), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(Babylon): and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death (Rome); and his deadly wound was healed {Anti-Christ/Little Horn} and all the world wondered after the beast.

    Rome suffered the MORTAL WOUND when they dispersed Israel/Jews all around the World. There would be no Beast for 2000 years because God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones, in 1948 God brought Israel back to life. Now there can be a Beast again, that will happen when the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem/Israel. The Mortal Wound will be healed.

    Add in Egypt and Assyria and you have the 7 Heads. As per he 8th King, that is a DEMON SPIRIT named Apollyon. That is not hard to figure out. He comes up from the PIT and goes to perdition. Being a Demon Spirit only means he was placed over the Mediterranean Sea Region, he is a PRINCIPALITY IN HIGH PLACES which Paul spoke of.
     
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  22. Revealing Times

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    The RCC stuff is bogus.
     
  23. God bless Joshua

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    The 7 heads (kings) have one BODY, doesnt it mean anything to you.
     
  24. Revealing Times

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    Yea, its just like the Statue with ONE BODY brother.

    The one difference is the Red Dragon of Rev. 12 is Satan.

    The Beast out of the Sea in Rev. 13 is a MAN.

    The Scarlet Colored Beast in Rev. 17 is Apollyon.

    In Rev. 12 Satan is the RULER so there is 7 CROWNS over the Seven Heads.

    In Rev. 13 the MAN/BEAST is over the 10 Kings thus they have 10 CROWNS.

    In Rev. 17 Apollyon is not over Satan and hes not a real PHYSICAL KINGDOM of earth thus he has NO CROWNS on the Heads because that is Satan's Kingdoms, and he has no CROWNS on the horns/kings thus he is not a real Kingdom on earth. Hes just placed BY Satan over the Mediterranean Sea Region.
     
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