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Seth Abramson: The impeachment isn't about Donald; it's about Democracy

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by TLK Valentine, Dec 14, 2019.

  1. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Seth Abramson on Twitter

    Reprinted here for the Twitter-impaired:

    Man's got a point.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. JackRT

    JackRT Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I think that post is bang on.
     
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  3. Fantine

    Fantine Dona Quixote Supporter

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    Absolute power corrupts absolutely!

    And where does that put us with DJT, who was absolutely corrupt even before he began aspiring to be our dictator instead of our term limited president?
     
  4. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    My second reaction is 'distraction from a sensible thread'.
     
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  5. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 this statement is not true Supporter

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    Indeed. If Trump can't be impeached, who can be? Why does it require murder, theft, or stains on a blue dress only... but not threatening to sell your country's interests out to a slavic autocrat for a bit of dirt on a potential rival candidate?
     
  6. JackRT

    JackRT Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Hillary Clinton has been accused of multiple things, has been thoroughly investigated, has testified for hours and in the end there was nothing to charge her with. She has been the victim of the biggest smear campaign that I can remember. To me she is not particularly likeable but she is intelligent, competent and experienced. And, oh yes, she is not a habitual liar.
     
  7. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Or if she is, she's at least a talented one.
     
  8. SummerMadness

    SummerMadness Senior Veteran

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    It is indeed about democracy, butI don’t think Cult 45 cares. No matter what, he will always be an asterisk president, which must be maddening.
     
  9. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    "The Senate impeachment trial will primarily be a vote on whether to abolish the Impeachment Clause of the Constitution—because if a president can categorically deny Congress all witnesses and all documents whenever he feels like it, there *is* no Impeachment Clause anymore."

    Exactly.
     
  10. Pommer

    Pommer Autodidact polymath

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    Think GoT with even stupider, more ruthless, and less principled players.

    Knights can slay knights any time they’d like to try, but should a serf kill a knight, (or a knight kill a lord off the field of battle), there’s going to be BIG trouble for the lower caste.

    Like it or not Trump is the President and by that fact “earns” the right to sit at the Ruling Class’s Table.
    If they “take him down”, yes, they’ll be somewhat hypocritical in that [while] for using the Ruling Class’s own rules to do it, they’ll’ve had done something out of the normal order of things, which is what supporters of the President will say he’s charged with! “Doing ‘things differently, 7th dimension chess’, he’s too smart for THEM!”, and they’ll hammer on like “BENGHAZI”.
    Just you watch!
     
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  11. Pommer

    Pommer Autodidact polymath

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    Not to go too far off topic but this “corrupt Joe Biden” meme that Trump is trying to gin up...Joe’s FAMOUSLY UNRICH, if he’s a criminal, he sure ISN’T a talented one!
     
  12. JackRT

    JackRT Well-Known Member Supporter

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    ^^^^^ This ^^^^^
     
  13. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    True... either Biden is far less talented at being a criminal, or he's far more talented at being an honest and decent human being than the incumbent.

    Neither of these should come as any surprise.
     
  14. SoldierOfTheKing

    SoldierOfTheKing Christian Spenglerian

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    Whatever Abramson means by “democracy”, he obviously doesn’t mean popular sovereignty.
     
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