Sending tanks to Ukraine

[Red Gold]

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said Berlin would not stand in the way if Poland decides to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine. French President Emmanuel Macron did not rule out sending heavy tanks to Ukraine.

Germany will not keep Poland from sending tanks to Ukraine – DW – 01/22/2023

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said Berlin would not stand in the way if Poland decides to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine. French President Emmanuel Macron did not rule out sending heavy tanks to Ukraine.

www.dw.com

News are coming in that Germany is now sending Leopard tanks to Ukraine

 

[SimplyMe]

The US has also announced that it has reversed a previous decision and is now preparing to send the M1 Abrams tank to Ukraine.

 

[Whyayeman]

Germany will send its 2A6 battle tanks in conjunction with other countries such as Finland, Sweden and Poland, say reports citing government sources.

Berlin plans to send German Leopard tanks to Ukraine, according to reports

Germany will send its 2A6 battle tanks in conjunction with other countries such as Finland, Sweden and Poland, say reports citing government sources

www.theguardian.com

Good, I say.

 

[wing2000]

All for it....but training and logistics for 3 different tanks in a very small amount of time is a tall order.

 

[Paulos23]

All for it....but training and logistics for 3 different tanks in a very small amount of time is a tall order.

Yes. Most likely we will not see these tanks charge across the battlefield for a few months.

 

[Nithavela]

Months too late, but better than never.

 

[Red Gold]

The US has also announced that it has reversed a previous decision and is now preparing to send the M1 Abrams tank to Ukraine.

Two good news for Ukraine together!

 

[Whyayeman]

Still not a good day for Putin's forces. I think there could be tanks in action next month. Just maybe, Ukrainian soldiers have already had their training in one of the NATO countries. ..

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

One hundred tanks and they can take Moscow guys.

 

[Red Gold]

Some info about the Leopard 2

The Leopard 2 is a 3rd generation main battle tank originally developed by Krauss-Maffei in the 1970s for the West German army. The tank entered service in 1979 and succeeded the earlier Leopard 1 as the main battle tank of the West German Army. It is armed with a 120 mm smoothbore cannon made by Rheinmetall, and is powered by a V-12 twin-turbo diesel engine made by MTU Friedrichshafen.

Various versions have served in the armed forces of Germany and 13 other European countries, as well as several non-European nations, including Canada, Chile, Indonesia, and Singapore. The Leopard 2 was used in Kosovo with the German Army, in Afghanistan with the Dutch, Danish and Canadian contributions to the International Security Assistance Force, and saw action in Syria with the Turkish Armed Forces.

Leopard 2 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Nithavela]

Everything you need to know about the Leopard 2 in one YT video:

 

[Red Gold]

The Abrams decision and the Leopards decision are connected:

An announcement about the tanks could be part of an attempt to break a diplomatic logjam with Germany, which indicated to the US last week that it would not send its Leopard tanks to Ukraine unless the US also agreed to send its M1 Abrams tanks.

Top national security officials in the administration have been actively considering steps they could take to convince Germany to send the Leopards.

US finalizing plans to send Abrams tanks to Ukraine, US officials say | CNN Politics

The Biden administration is finalizing plans to send US-made Abrams tanks to Ukraine and could make an announcement as soon as this week, according to three US officials familiar with the deliberations.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Desk trauma]

Everything you need to know about the Leopard 2 in one YT video:

Would you look at that, the German equivalent of 'merica!

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

It's going by the Book.Please watch on youtube.

 

[wing2000]

Everything you need to know about the Leopard 2 in one YT video:

...of course the Japanese do it with two wine glasses.

 

[Red Gold]

Would you look at that, the German equivalent of 'merica!

What 'merica! is for America, is Schland! for Deutschland and the German football.

 

[Red Gold]

Germany says "YES!" to sending tanks to Ukraine

CNN reports:

Germany is set to send its sought-after Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine to help bolster the country’s war effort, Der Spiegel reported on Tuesday evening, attributing to unnamed sources. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has decided to deliver the battle tanks following “months of debate,” according to the German news outlet’s exclusive report.

The German parliament is due to debate the contentious issue on Wednesday morning. Deciding to send them would be a landmark moment in the West’s support for Kyiv that follows days of intense pressure on Berlin from some of its NATO partners.

CNN reached out to the German government for comment on Tuesday evening but has not received a response.

Germany set to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, Der Spiegel reports | CNN

Germany is set to send its sought-after Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine to help bolster the country's war effort, Der Spiegel reported on Tuesday evening, attributing to unnamed sources. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has decided to deliver the battle tanks following "months of debate," according to...

edition.cnn.com

 

[Red Gold]

Now:

Germany confirms it will provide Ukraine with Leopard 2 tanks

Germany confirms it will provide Ukraine with Leopard 2 tanks

Russia has downplayed the impact of the move, saying Western tanks will "burn like all the rest".

www.bbc.com

 

[wing2000]

From what I've read, the US decision to reverse course and send M1 tanks was made to provide cover for Germany releasing their Leopard tanks. I doubt the M1's will ever reach the battlefield. Operationally, it would not make sense to field two main main battlefield tanks and besides, the M1 use jet fuel and are significantly heavier.


"....the goal is to quickly assemble two Leopard tank battalions — equivalent to at least 70 tanks — for Ukraine, the German government said in a statement. As a first step, Germany will provide a company of 14 Leopard 2 A6 tanks from its army’s stocks. European allies will also provide tanks with German approval.

The Biden administration is also due to announce Wednesday that it will send the main U.S. battle tank, the M1 Abrams, though probably not until at least the fall, a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the situation said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. Washington is expected to send at least 30."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/25/germany-leopard-tanks-abrams-ukraine/

 

[iluvatar5150]

Doesn’t congress have a history of buying more Abrams tanks than the army wants, because it enables the tank factory to stay open (with the convenient side effect of encouraging its employees to reelect whatever congressman is responsible)?

If we’re already buying them, no sense in letting them go to waste.