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SENATE INTEL COMMITTEE:NO RUSSIAN COLLUSION!?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by No Username Found, Feb 13, 2019.

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  1. No Username Found

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  2. EpiscipalMe

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    Chairman of the committee said this:
    "On Tuesday, Burr repeated to reporters that “we don’t have any” evidence of collusion. Asked whether the committee’s investigation exonerated Trump, Burr said: “Just saying what factually we’ve found to date. We haven’t finished our investigation.”"
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a5b113ecd3c_story.html?utm_term=.56eb9e303512

    They are not done investigating. Mueller is not done yet either.

    Maybe there is something, maybe there isn't, but it is premature to come to conclusions before the work is done.
     
  3. Michael

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    Exactly.

    What amazes me is that supposed "reporters" like Tucker Carlson don't even acknowledge the fact that both Warren and Burr have publicly stated that their investigation isn't complete yet and they have differing opinions. Carlson doesn't acknowledge the fact that both the House and Senate investigations have been controlled by Republicans and they aren't nearly as 'in depth' as the Mueller investigation which is also incomplete. Instead, Carlson goes on a lengthy rant and angry tirade claiming that everyone who suspects or ever suspected collusion is an "idiot" and "stupid", and he pretends that Burr's few comments somehow completely exonerates Trump's entire campaign. Carlson seems to have completely ignored the fact that Trump's campaign staff and his personal layer have been found guilty of lying to congress and to the FBI about Trumps financial ties to Russia, and according to Manaforts lawyer, Manafort turned over internal polling data to the Russians during the campaign.

    We're a long way from done. The Senate investigation isn't even complete yet, nor is Mueller's investigation done. Trump hasn't been exonerated in any way shape or form and until we see the outcome of the Mueller investigation, it's premature to claim that there was or was not collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    I don't even know what happened to real 'news' anymore. It's like everyone has turned into a political hack on every 24 hour news organization and they all have their political agendas hanging from their sleeves. Gah. What a horrible excuse for a newscast.

    I've started enjoying watching the news on CGTN from China as of late. They do sometimes cover Trump and the US of course, but they discuss other topic and other things that are happening around the world too. They do in depth reporting on topics and problems from around the world, not just here in the US. It's far more enjoyable to watch CGTN these days than watching Foxnews, CNN or MSNBC. I'm just sick and tired of all the constant focus on Trump. Trump isn't the only thing happening in the world.

    I'll wait to form my opinions about collusion based on what Mueller reports when he's done. I think he's handled himself very professionally and I trust that his report will contain the facts that I need to make an educated decision on the matter.

    Until then, this kind of political nonsense is just disgusting IMO. Reports from Foxnews, CNN and MSNBC are not really even "news" anymore, they're political spin doctoring by people with political agendas. That's not real news reporting, that's political nonsense.
     
  4. Shiloh Raven

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    What exactly are the Democrats lying about when the investigation isn't complete yet? It's rather premature to go on a victory lap and brag when the investigation of Trump isn't over yet.
     
  5. Ophiolite

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    Here's the deal. If it emerges that Trump was completely truthful in regard to Russian involvment in his campaign I shall contribute $100 to his re-election campaign. (If he does not stand for re-election I shall make a donation to a charity of your choice.) If it emerges that he did lie you will post a grovelling apology on the forum. Deal, or no deal? (Please feel free to respond in normal size font.)
     
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    It is because the whole investigation was never about finding the truth and everything about digging up dirt to impeach Trump. The motives of the Democrats are not grounded on any evidence or facts but on the wishful thinking of Democrats developed by their ideology and hatred for Trump. With fingers crossed, Democrats are desperately hoping and waiting for the day that the Muller investigation finally arrives that some kind of damnable "proof" that will finally get Trump out of office or into jail. How many people need to get "Kavanaughed" before the Democrats have had enough? The leftwing media is naturally trying to hold onto the faith by spinning the situation into "Sure we did not find any direct evidence, but that's no reason to give up hope. We can still get this guy, we just have to be patient. We all know Trump is guilty we just have to prove it."
     
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    1. Other than your unsupported wishful thinking, do you have any other reason to demonstrate that Tucker Carlson is lying?
    2. I also provided sources from left leaning media showing that the Senate Intel Committee found no direct evidence of collusion. Are they "lying" too?
     
  9. Nithavela

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    Once again, the wolf committee doesn't find any evidence of sheep eating.
     
  10. KCfromNC

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    Not according to the articles linked in the OP.

    For a long time, Trump and his people denied any contact with Russia. Your links show otherwise.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-contact-with-russia/?utm_term=.525db0e7f4fb

    But importantly, the new reports do seem to contradict claims the Trump campaign and now the Trump White House have made about their lack of contact with Russia. They have said in various ways that there was no contact, on multiple occasions, and as recently as Tuesday afternoon.

    From the OP's article :

    "I'm not going to get into any conclusions I have," he said, before adding that "there's never been a campaign in American history ... that people affiliated with the campaign had as many ties with Russia as the Trump campaign did."
     
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    Weird that it has managed to find the truth about a number of Trump employees lying about secret meetings with Russians during the campaign, the.

    Gonna have to stop you there before we get too far from reality. The Senate investigation was led by the GOP, since they control the Senate these days. And the Mueller investigation was started by a guy confirmed by the same GOP-led Senate.
     
  12. Shiloh Raven

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    I'll ask you my question again...

    What exactly are the Democrats lying about when the investigation isn't complete yet? It's rather premature to go on a victory lap and brag when the investigation of Trump isn't over yet.
     
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    Did you watch the video which provided video footage of Democrats like Nancy lying about "proof" of Trump's "collusion with the Russians". The investigation found no direct connection of Trump colluding with the Russians. That was a lie.
     
  14. USincognito

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    The investigation is not complete and the "no collusion" conclusion is from one Republican committee member. The lying is entirely coming from Tucker.
     
  15. super animator

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    I couldn't agree more with this.
     
  16. dgiharris

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    This is the sort of rhetoric that makes me want to put my fist through the computer.

    I vote both parties, 40% GOP 60% Dems and as someone who is unbiased in this regards, I can't begin to tell you all the ways you are blinded and wrong.

    You don't "only" investigate someone when you know beyond a fact that they are 100% guilty... No, that isn't how investigations work. You investigate someone when you have "reasonable" suspicion that "something" "might" have happened.

    THe more sensitive the subject, the higher potential for damage or problems, the lower the burden that needs to be met to have an investigation.

    In regards to Trump and his campaign and ALL US INTELLIGENT AGENCIES SAYING RUSSIA INFLUENCED OUR ELECTIONS as well as Trump not disclosing in a truthful manner all of his business dealings as well as Trump's various staff members being found GUILTY of various associated matters, it is more than reasonable to suspect there "might" be something shady going on.

    Here is a test for you. Replace Trump with Obama, instead of all of the stuff happening to Trump, lets say all of this happened to Obama. Would you still be adamant about leaving Obama alone?

    I can't believe the party of Reagan is so gung ho about sweeping an investigation, that Russia might have comprised the Presidency, under the rug. If anything, you'd think the GOP would be adamant about having the investigation just to make sure everything is fine and the highest office in the land hasn't been compromised...

    If Trump is innocent, he has nothing to fear right?
     
  17. dgiharris

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    It is quite frankly disgusting.
    I watch CNN and 25% of the time I cringe at the political bias and it gets even worse when they have the talking pundits debating with people who represent the other side. Don Lemon is one of the worst. I was watching a segment about something Trump and the GOP did or wanted to do. THere was 1 Trump/GOP supporter, 1 Liberal Professor, 1 Dem Analyst, and Don Lemon. They proceeded to gang up on the Trump/GOP supporter and would NOT let him answer any questions or present his argument. He was there to just be a punching bag and it was sickening. Even though I agreed with them, at the very least let the person argue his claim and defend his position. But nope, Don Lemon was so smug and smart and as he put it, "I'm not going to let you talk and spread lies..." something to that effect...

    And sadly, it is even worse on Fox News. Fox imo is 3 times worse than CNN in regards to spin and bias and misreporting. But, to get the whole truth you have to watch both ends of the spectrum and put them together. Although CNN is not opposite of Fox on the spectrum, CNN is slightly left of center, MSNBC is the opposite of Fox News.

    Would you please refrain from using truth, facts, and evidence in any matter dealing with Trump.

    thank you, and have a nice day :p
     
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