Self-Driving Uber Car Kills Arizona Pedestrian

[Aldebaran]

I know, the horrible agenda of making people drive safely! The horrors!

It's not up to the MSM to make people do anything. Their job is to report the news.

 

[wing2000]

It's not up to the MSM to make people do anything. Their job is to report the news.

What part of the article is not news?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I was making a point about human nature and its tendency to exagerate dangers. Like how people are afraid of getting eaten by sharks or terrorists.

Especially the terrorists trying to eat us. You really gotta watch out for those.

 

[Nithavela]

Especially the terrorists trying to eat us. You really gotta watch out for those.

At least we're safe from muslim terrorists on that front, I don't think human meat is halal.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

At least we're safe from muslim terrorists on that front, I don't think human meat is halal.

No, I hear we're very similar to pork.

 

[Aldebaran]

What part of the article is not news?

The parts where they inject statements based on their own opinions to get the reader to see the issue the way the journalist wants them to see it, along with selective facts to support their opinion while leaving out any alternative viewpoint. From the article:

"The fatal crash will most likely raise questions about regulations for self-driving cars. Testing of self-driving cars is already underway for vehicles that have a human driver ready to take over if something goes wrong, but states are starting to allow companies to test cars without a person in the driver’s seat. This month, California said that, in April, it would start allowing companies to test autonomous vehicles without anyone behind the wheel."

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The parts where they inject statements based on their own opinions to get the reader to see the issue the way the journalist wants them to see it, along with selective facts to support their opinion while leaving out any alternative viewpoint. From the article:

"The fatal crash will most likely raise questions about regulations for self-driving cars. Testing of self-driving cars is already underway for vehicles that have a human driver ready to take over if something goes wrong, but states are starting to allow companies to test cars without a person in the driver’s seat. This month, California said that, in April, it would start allowing companies to test autonomous vehicles without anyone behind the wheel."

I don't see any opinion in what you quoted.

 

[wing2000]

The parts where they inject statements based on their own opinions to get the reader to see the issue the way the journalist wants them to see it, along with selective facts to support their opinion while leaving out any alternative viewpoint. From the article:

"The fatal crash will most likely raise questions about regulations for self-driving cars. Testing of self-driving cars is already underway for vehicles that have a human driver ready to take over if something goes wrong, but states are starting to allow companies to test cars without a person in the driver’s seat. This month, California said that, in April, it would start allowing companies to test autonomous vehicles without anyone behind the wheel."

[shrug]

I guess I'm not seeing a specific viewpoint with the excerpt you cited....the author could be for or against self-driving cars. It's only logical that authorities will review regulations once the investigation of this accident is complete.

 

[Aldebaran]

[shrug]

I guess I'm not seeing a specific viewpoint with the excerpt you cited....the author could be for or against self-driving cars. It's only logical that authorities will review regulations once the investigation of this accident is complete.

"The fatal crash will most likely raise questions about regulations for self-driving cars. Testing of self-driving cars is already underway for vehicles that have a human driver ready to take over if something goes wrong, but states are starting to allow companies to test cars without a person in the driver’s seat. This month, California said that, in April, it would start allowing companies to test autonomous vehicles without anyone behind the wheel."

 

[Nithavela]

"The fatal crash will most likely raise questions about regulations for self-driving cars. Testing of self-driving cars is already underway for vehicles that have a human driver ready to take over if something goes wrong, but states are starting to allow companies to test cars without a person in the driver’s seat. This month, California said that, in April, it would start allowing companies to test autonomous vehicles without anyone behind the wheel."

Still not seeing it. Maybe if you use some red colored text?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

"The fatal crash will most likely raise questions about regulations for self-driving cars. Testing of self-driving cars is already underway for vehicles that have a human driver ready to take over if something goes wrong, but states are starting to allow companies to test cars without a person in the driver’s seat. This month, California said that, in April, it would start allowing companies to test autonomous vehicles without anyone behind the wheel."

The first part is the only one close to being an opinion but it hardly pushes any kind of agenda. It's more just a prediction of what will likely come of cases like this. The second part is not an opinion at all.

 

[Aldebaran]

Still not seeing it. Maybe if you use some red colored text?

Do you wear glasses? It's possible your prescription needs to be updated. It might be a good idea to schedule an appointment. The color of the text shouldn't make any difference.

 

[Aldebaran]

The first part is the only one close to being an opinion but it hardly pushes any kind of agenda. It's more just a prediction of what will likely come of cases like this. The second part is not an opinion at all.

But it's still there to try to make the reader feel like it's a big concern and make it sound like the car industry is just going to go ahead and continue as if nothing has happened. It's not much different from when there's a mass shooting and then a reporter goes into how the NRA opposes new gun laws, as if it's automatically assumed that one was related to the other. By inserting statements like that into the story, the reporter is linking things together to try to sway the reader into doing the same.

 

[wing2000]

But it's still there to try to make the reader feel like it's a big concern and make it sound like the car industry is just going to go ahead and continue as if nothing has happened. It's not much different from when there's a mass shooting and then a reporter goes into how the NRA opposes new gun laws, as if it's automatically assumed that one was related to the other. By inserting statements like that into the story, the reporter is linking things together to try to sway the reader into doing the same.

It is a big concern *if* the car's sensors/software had sufficient time to detect and react to a pedestrian crossing in front of it....

We'll see what the investigation reveals.

 

[SummerMadness]

Especially the terrorists trying to eat us. You really gotta watch out for those.

I'm more afraid of Street Sharks.

 

[variant]

Currently, there is a sample size of one and no statistical data of any value can be extracted from that.

Also, it depends on which metric you use. Do you count per vehicle? Per time driven? Per miles driven? How do you count various circumstances?

Insurance companies are paid to know such things, they will have the statistics you are looking, so you can look to them to decide how to insure self driving cars for liability purposes.

 

[Rubiks]

I would think that a human driver would at least attempt to push the brakes, hence reducing the severity of any injury.

 

[Ringo84]

With things like this, it's important not to rush to judgment. We don't know whether the pedestrian stepped out in front of the car or not, and we shouldn't assume a variation of the Principal Skinner meme:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/645/713/888.jpg

It could be very well that the software and/or hardware failed. If it did, I'm sure the people developing autonomous driving will eventually fix the bug, because they're very bright people.

At the same time, I'm concerned that we're putting too many of our eggs in one basket with self-driving cars. It seems we decided, at some point, that encouraging humans to be better drivers was impossible and that technology had to "save" us from ourselves. I'm not against self-driving cars, per se, but I don't like the fact that they take away control, and I'm still not 100% convinced that the technology is the saving grace that many people seem to think it is.

My philosophy is that we need to be the change that we want to see in the world, rather than sitting and waiting for technology to create "utopia" for us.
Ringo

 

[Rubiks]

With things like this, it's important not to rush to judgment. We don't know whether the pedestrian stepped out in front of the car or not, and we shouldn't assume a variation of the Principal Skinner meme:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/645/713/888.jpg

It could be very well that the software and/or hardware failed. If it did, I'm sure the people developing autonomous driving will eventually fix the bug, because they're very bright people.

At the same time, I'm concerned that we're putting too many of our eggs in one basket with self-driving cars. It seems we decided, at some point, that encouraging humans to be better drivers was impossible and that technology had to "save" us from ourselves. I'm not against self-driving cars, per se, but I don't like the fact that they take away control, and I'm still not 100% convinced that the technology is the saving grace that many people seem to think it is.

My philosophy is that we need to be the change that we want to see in the world, rather than sitting and waiting for technology to create "utopia" for us.
Ringo

Personally, I'm more scared of people reverse engineering self-driving cars to commit remote acts of terrorism.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

See now THERE’S an inanimate object that killed someone all by itself. Let’s ban those.