Seals

[FrankDux]

Did you know that within the framework of gematria ( Which was handed down from the Sumerian priests and used in procedural texts detailing rituals based around astronomical events like new moon and eclipses ) that the seal value is derived with

144,000 and 666

Huh, did you ?

And did you ever compare this to anything to see what it might mean ?

 

[archer75]

Handed down from Sumerian priests to whom?

What is the "seal value"?

 

[miknik5]

Did you know that within the framework of gematria ( Which was handed down from the Sumerian priests and used in procedural texts detailing rituals based around astronomical events like new moon and eclipses ) that the seal value is derived with

144,000 and 666

Huh, did you ?

And did you ever compare this to anything to see what it might mean ?

Yes
That makes sense completely
Since revelation 6 is the recap of the history of man oppressing man

And

Since there is only ONE worthy to open and reveal that TRUTH

 

[FrankDux]

Handed down from Sumerian priests to whom?

What is the "seal value"?

Well, it's right here

 

[archer75]

Cool, now I understand.

 

[FrankDux]

Yes
That makes sense completely
Since revelation 6 is the recap of the history of man oppressing man

And

Since there is only ONE worthy to open and reveal that TRUTH

That's a good point

That's for the lion of Judah to show us

 

[FrankDux]

Cool, now I understand.

Awesome

Can you show me how the value is derived from 144,000 and 666 again ?

 

[archer75]

Awesome

Can you show me how the value is derived from 144,000 and 666 again ?

No. Because I don't actually understand any of this.

 

[miknik5]

That's a good point

That's for the lion of Judah to show us

Nah

Anyone waiting for the lion of Judah has already missed the lamb


Just as Isaiah 61 clearly shows CHRIST has two ministries

And right now it is still the year of GOD's favor

When that time is complete, then that other ministry will begin


(just sad HIS reference to only the first part of HIS MINISTRY when HE read from Isaiah 61 as explained in Luke 4)

 

[FrankDux]

Welp, ...I guess we could start with what a seal is in scripture

We could start with the first use of the word:

1Ki 21:8 So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth.

חותם chowtham {kho-thawm'} or חתם chotham {kho-thawm'} from 02856; TWOT - 780a; n m AV - signet 9, seal 5; 14 1) seal, signet, signet-ring

חתם chatham {khaw-tham'} a primitive root; TWOT - 780; v AV - seal 18, seal up 6, marked 1, stopped 1, variant 1; 27 1) to seal, seal up, affix a seal 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to seal, affix one's seal 1a2) to seal up, fasten up by sealing 1b) (Niphal) to seal 1c) (Piel) to lock up 1d) (Hiphil) to be stopped


Here are some examples of royal seals of Judah

 

[miknik5]

Welp, ...I guess we could start with what a seal is in scripture

We could start with the first use of the word:

1Ki 21:8 So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth.

חותם chowtham {kho-thawm'} or חתם chotham {kho-thawm'} from 02856; TWOT - 780a; n m AV - signet 9, seal 5; 14 1) seal, signet, signet-ring

חתם chatham {khaw-tham'} a primitive root; TWOT - 780; v AV - seal 18, seal up 6, marked 1, stopped 1, variant 1; 27 1) to seal, seal up, affix a seal 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to seal, affix one's seal 1a2) to seal up, fasten up by sealing 1b) (Niphal) to seal 1c) (Piel) to lock up 1d) (Hiphil) to be stopped


Here are some examples of royal seals of Judah

I'm sorry

We already know what GOD has dsid about ahabs fate

No man wants to be found serving the wrong king

 

[miknik5]

Who will cause ahah to fall


the same question GOD posed then remains today

You should look into it

 

[FrankDux]

It's really a simple system

The " seal " is the letter Tav / Taf / Taw

It was used as a brand for animals like sheep and goats in Mesopotamia

It was also used to mark the faithful

The derivation is as such

Not so complicated, is it

 

[FrankDux]

We start with simple prime number theory, we can examine the " seven seals " against the objects that are sealed

We use what's known as Euler's totient function φ(n)

φ(n) is the number of positive integers not exceeding n that have no common divisors with n (other than the common divisor 1)

In other words, φ(n) is the number of integers m coprime to n such that 1 ≤ m ≤ n

The totient function plays a key role in the definition of the RSA encryption system that much of the modern world depends on

the first thing this will do, is show us that all those verses about signs in the sky, point right back to the etymology of the untranslated word in Genesis

You recognize this word, I'm certain, because it is the same word used in

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel

אות 'owth {oth} probably from 0225 (in the sense of appearing); TWOT - 41a; n f AV - sign(s) 60, token(s) 14, ensign(s) 2, miracles 2, mark 1; 79 1) sign, signal 1a) a distinguishing mark 1b) banner 1c) remembrance 1d) miraculous sign 1e) omen 1f) warning 2) token, ensign, standard, miracle, proof

 

[FrankDux]

The first thing that would become obvious when comparing the value of the seal ( 400 ) to the seven words of Genesis 1:1 , is the following

The next would be the associations of the singular day with the coming of Jesus

The next would be the difference of 314

This is the value of the word " month ", in the beginning of the flood ( Days of Noah : Son of Man : signs in the sky )

Now, considering that the average month length that is the basis of the Bible's writings, along with the modern Hebrew calendar ( Which is most certainly not Babylonian in origin , lol ) was handed down directly from Sumerian priests and was the basis of procedural texts that deal with astronomical events like eclipses AKA " signs / omen "

kana [DARK] (3x: Old Babylonian) wr. kana6; kana5; kana3 "(to be) dark, gloomy; gloom" Akkadian adāru

kana_6


That's cognate to the Hebrew " adar ", which is the intercalary month needed to be able to synchronize both the lunar to the solar calendars, but also the luni-solar to the stellar ( the zodiac )

That's why the month is rendered 29. + 13753 / 25,920 days

The day is rendered as 25,920 chelekim ( the Jewish second, essentially )

The zodiac / mazzaroth is 25,920 " years "

The confusion might stem from the fact that while Babylonians usually did not use Sumerian, they used Sumerian which was written in Akkadian in procedural texts, hundred of years after the height of the Akkadian empire

IOW, they preserved the knowledge through the use of these specific earlier texts





The " flood ", is a term used for BOTH eclipses and New Moon in Mesopotamian texts

That is the same thing I posted in my blog about " sin " and the name of the moon during New Moon






But this all gets more complex, and I am going to be tickled pink to see how you atheists and naysayers of the Bible are going to handle it

I'll give it a day or two before going on though

 

[FrankDux]

One of the first curious mathematical objects in the Torah is the letter count, showing the 666th letter in the word " seasons ", in the verse of Genesis 1:14

...which is exactly where we find the first occurrence of the word " signs "....which refers to eclipses

of which we would have neither without axial tilt

All of which is commonly known in the system of mathematical astronomy known to Mesopotamian priest / astronomers

 

[miknik5]

One of the first curious mathematical objects in the Torah is the letter count, showing the 666th letter in the word " seasons ", in the verse of Genesis 1:14

...which is exactly where we find the first occurrence of the word " signs "....which refers to eclipses

of which we would have neither without axial tilt

All of which is commonly known in the system of mathematical astronomy known to Mesopotamian priest / astronomers

Of course

Who needs the signs?

GOD?
Or man?

666 is unregenerated man