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What part confused you? The part where someone challenged me to try it, and I said no thanks? I don't get the confusion.GreenEyedLady said:
Uncle Bud said:Sure I do.
Can someone point out to me where it says anywhere that we are to memorize scriptures?
Uncle Bud said:Well I have considered all the posts here and still disagree. If when reading the Bible as I do, I later recall a verse, that to me is enough. I do not set out to memorize a certain verse or passage, but there are some that come back to me when I am meditating on the law, or whatever. Why should I? I have the concept, love God, love each other and don't be afraid, so why the need to memorize various passages of the Bible?
Rhetorical question, you don't have to answer.
It is indeed a fine question, and one I asked as well.RED that's ME said:A better question is WHY memorize scripture.
How? How does memorizing scripture prepare anyone for a productive life of Christian labour and growth?It prepares you for a life of productive Christian labour and growth.
Sure enough, but does one need to memorize the passages to have knowledge of God or His will for us? Certainly Jesus boiled everything down to simple statements like ove God and love each other.A thorough knowledge of God's word helps us in our every day life:
Yep, I agree, and it is also true that the Bible is foolishness to those who are unbelievers, so in some cases rattling off a number of verses will be nothing but a hinderance, or as the Bible puts it, foolishness. I can give a reason why I have hope, and not even mention a Bible verse in the process.We are told to be prepared to answer questions concerning our faith in Christ. [size=-2](1PE 3:15)[/size]
Where does it mention that he memorized these scriptures?Paul was able to reason with non-Christians because of a knowledge of the word. [size=-2](AC 17:1-4) [/size]
I have the Word in my heart (Jesus the Christ) and He enables me to encourage and teach others.Having the word in our hearts allows us to encourage and teach others. [size=-2](CO 3:16; 2 TI 2:14-17) [/size]
"5:13 For everyone who lives on milk is inexperienced in the message of righteousness, because he is an infant. 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, whose perceptions are trained by practice to discern both good and evil."Knowing and using the Word teaches us right from wrong. [size=-2](HE 5:13-14)[/size]
Cannot a daily reading of the Bible do the same thing? How does memorizing the Bible or passages enhance the daily study?It can increase our ability to distinguish truth from error in doctrine
15:7 "If you remainjoh15_notes.htm#1522 in me and my words remainjoh15_notes.htm#1523 in you, ask whatever you want, and it will be done for you."It will help our prayer life [size=-2](John 15:7)[/size]
How?Knowing God's word allows us to study the Bible more effectively
I can do that now, as I have a pocket Bible that i can carry anywhere.If we know the scriptures we can meditate on it anytime wherever we are. [size=-2](Ps 119:97; Ps 16:7)[/size]
How?It helps us to stand firm against Satan's attacks.
Well that is a good answer, and if I ever get the calling to be a missionary, that will be a good reason to do this. Good point TLE.The Lord's Envoy said:As a future missionary to a possibly hostile country, such as one in the middle east, my bible will be illegal. I will still have one but not if I get thrown in jail or walking around the streets. We, in america have the luxury of keeping a bible handy, but the more I think of the possibilities for me in the future, if I ever get thrown in a muslim jail those scripture that I have on my heart will be a huge comfort. Not to mention one never knows when they may have to witness without a bible.
The Lord's Envoy said:As a future missionary to a possibly hostile country, such as one in the middle east, my bible will be illegal. I will still have one but not if I get thrown in jail or walking around the streets. We, in america have the luxury of keeping a bible handy, but the more I think of the possibilities for me in the future, if I ever get thrown in a muslim jail those scripture that I have on my heart will be a huge comfort. Not to mention one never knows when they may have to witness without a bible.
Whatever you do, do to the glory of God is my advice, whether that means memorizing or not. But its a definite trait that is invaluable.
Uncle Bud said:What part confused you? The part where someone challenged me to try it, and I said no thanks? I don't get the confusion.
seebs said:I try not to memorize, but to remember. For me, words memorized verbatim lose a lot of their meaning, because I can only understand them as I memorized them. It's better, for me, to have a sense for "there was a passage about halfway through Luke about this", and go read the WHOLE passage, in context, and look at it with fresh eyes.
seebs said:I see all English translations as paraphrases anyway.
FWIW, I also don't think of Scripture as the Word, which is a term I believe refers exclusively to Jesus.
arunma said:Also, I can't get over the fact that the KJV Bible advocates the existence of unicorns.
Psalm 119:11 "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee." Is not referring to Jesus Christ. It is referring to His written words - made plainly clear by the context of the Psalm.Uncle Bud said:I have the Word in my heart (Jesus the Christ) and He enables me to encourage and teach others.
No. Why is that important to this discussion?GreenEyedLady said:Bud,
Have you ever lead anyone to the Lord? You know, witnessed to them and then they accepted Christ as thier Saviour right there while you prayed along with them?
I am with seebsseebs said:I try not to memorize, but to remember. For me, words memorized verbatim lose a lot of their meaning, because I can only understand them as I memorized them. It's better, for me, to have a sense for "there was a passage about halfway through Luke about this", and go read the WHOLE passage, in context, and look at it with fresh eyes.
When you give God's word to them in its purest form, is it Greek, Aramaic, or what?Quantum_Man said:"Jesus replied: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'" -Mt. 22:37
It takes time and mental effort to memorize Scripture. I've been in a lot of situations when talking with people and I knew the verse I wanted to say but couldn't remember the exact verse or reference so I had to very loosely paraphrase it. I'd rather be able to give people God's Word in the its purest form, knowing it has power and won't return void.
Uncle Bud said:No. Why is that important to this discussion?
Jesus has written words? Where? The muslims will be ionterested in this for sure.hindsey said:Psalm 119:11 "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee." Is not referring to Jesus Christ. It is referring to His written words - made plainly clear by the context of the Psalm.
Not true. Knowing and memorizing are two different things. There are many people who have memorized things, and taken them out of context to help there present situation or what not. They don't know the correct basis for the texts. And yet they will spout them off as if they mean something, and that will draw others to Christ. It won't.GreenEyedLady said:It would be pretty hard to witness and lead someone to Christ if you really don't care about knowing (memorizing) scriptures.
And what pray tell was your feeling based on? I have witnessed, to people, just never "prayed the prayer" with them, so how does that jive with your feeling now?I had a feeling that you had never expierienced this.
Agreed, but what is the Gospel GEL? What is the good news, that they were to pass out? I know this, and can relate this to anyone, and don't need to memorize scriptures to do it.It is every christains job to "give" out the word and Gospel to the unbelievers.
Agreed, and the Word of God is Jesus, and we pass Him along to others in many ways, one of them being acting in love.It is every christians job to pass out the Word of God to believers for comfort and unbelievers for salvation.
Why are you assuming that I am hiding anything from anyone?Why are you "hiding it" from others who need it?
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