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Scientist gives lecture on effects of Covid vaccine.

Discussion in 'Conspiracy Theories' started by Jeshu, Sep 27, 2021.

  1. Jeshu

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    This content is still questionable. There are three or four different types of vaccines available worldwide. It is fair to question those of similar types (like Pfizer & Moderna), but this video makes blanket statements about all types of vaccines indiscriminately.
    All covid vaccines are not the same, equal, nor are they equally risky.
     
  3. Jeshu

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    like he said it are the spike proteins, all Covid vaccines have them as far as i know.
     
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    1. The "spike protein" strategy is Pfizer, Moderna and others. (These and Johnson & Johnson are the only three currently offered in the USA.)
    2. Valneva & Sinovac use deactivated "whole virus" vaccines. (They are similar to annual flu shots in design.)
    3. Still others are attenuated "whole virus" vaccines, which is also a routine vaccine method.
    #1 vaccines have different issues than #2 or #3-style vaccines. Any report that lumps them all together, is deliberate disinformation.
     
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    Thanks for showing me that. That is where i will be waiting for then, unless they have also been developed by aborted cell tissue.

    i did not know about number 2 and 3 vaccines as being available. i don't think they are available to us here in Australia.
    Who can get vaccinated
     
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    Valneva is being tested in New Zealand and, possibly, in Australia.
    Valneva & Sinovac do not use aborted fetal cells* in their manufacturing process, but many other #2s & #3s do.

    Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca both use aborted fetal cells. They appear to be a "fourth" type of vaccine design.

    *See https://cogforlife.org/wp-content/uploads/CovidCompareMoralImmoral.pdf
     
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    Vaccines are a repeat of GMOs and anti depressants (SSRIs).
     
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    I'll compare what he's saying to what most other doctors, scientists and medical professionals are saying. My sister was a practitioner for 40 years, and it was very important to her that I and my brother get vaccinated. And she just mentioned to me that she'll be getting a booster soon. She wouldn't go anywhere near it if it was dangerous. Not to mention wanting her only child and siblings to get it.
     
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    They are "whole virus" vaccines (not just "spike proteins").
    All deactivated/inactivated & attenuated vaccines are.
     
  12. Jeshu

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    Yes my mum did what you suggest and got the Covid shot and developed serious heart problems and has been sick ever since.

    What does that say about trusting doctors to know it right?

    Experimental vaccines should never be used on this scale. That is lunacy! It runs the real risk turning into a complete disaster.

    Peace.
     
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    Yes the rest is unimportant, it are the spike proteins that cause the trouble according to the video. Whole virus, no virus, doesn't seem to matter.

    Love to have that wrong.
     
  14. Yeshua HaDerekh

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    ALL viruses have spike G protein coats. They are what make the immune response in our bodies. Flu vaccines use it too. If you get the flu or a cold, your body makes antibodies against the spike G protein coat of the virus. That guy is an idiot...
     
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    Vaccines do not use spike proteins to "attack" a virus.
    Vaccines train your immune system to recognize & fight a particular virus without going through the actual sickness.
    The covid-19 virus has spike proteins on its exterior.

    Attenuated vaccines send in a sample of the whole virus "in handcuffs."
    Deactivated/inactivated vaccines send in a sample that has been "knocked out."
    RNA vaccines recreate a life-size model of the virus' spike protein; that is, a copy of "its clothes."
     
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    i see this injection as an outward portrayal of an inner truth in relation to the process we find ourselves in ....
     
  17. Jeshu

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    Could you explain that?
     
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    i am referencing the seed of the serpent, as something that enters in from outside and causes corruption ...
     
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    Mutations of the virus may not have the same spike proteins.
    That is where "whole virus" vaccines are expected to be more effective than mRNA ["spike protein" only] vaccines.
     
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  20. Jeshu

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    Not a bad analysis but does it stand up to scrutiny?

    Vaccines can prevent illness we know to be true. At a cost, for there are always injuries, but nevertheless much illness seems to have been prevented in the past using vaccines. Or is that not true?

    While satan's lies always work destruction when heeded, nothing good whatsoever.
     
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