School's are not Teaching

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One of the biggest problems with education is what it is not doing. Finland has the best education system in the world. So why are places like the U.S. not doing it.
Finland Education System.
Want to know why Finland has the best education system in the world? Well, here are the top characteristics of Finland Education System:

  1. The minimum age of starting elementary education in Finland is 7 years thus Finnish kids get to enjoy their childhood and kickstart their learning with their families rather than spending excessive time in schools.
  2. Finnish teachers formulate their own grading systems for the students rather than relying on class exams and standardised tests.
  3. The only mandatory test that Finnish students give is at the age of 16.
  4. Finnish teachers only spend around 4 hours every day teaching in the classroom while they devote 2 hours every week for professional development.
  5. The school system in Finland is wholly 100% state-funded.
  6. The graduates from the top 10 percentile can only apply to become a Teacher in Finland.
  7. Every teacher in Finland is a master’s degree holder which is completely subsidized by the country’s government.
  8. On average, the starting salary of a teacher in Finland is somewhere around $29,000.
  9. Teachers are considered equivalent in status to doctors and lawyers in Finland.
  10. In 2018, the literacy rate in Finland was 99.0%.
  11. Finnish students spend only 20 hours a week at school.
  12. Every student in Finland can speak 2-3 languages.
  13. No competitions between Finnish schools since every academic institution has the same facilities as any other.
  14. Students get to learn new things in schools from baking and industrial works to music and poetry.
  15. For every 45 minutes of learning in schools, Finnish students get to spend every 15 minutes for playing or leisure activities.
  16. Finnish students receive free healthy meals from their schools.
  17. Every Finnish student is provided special services that fit their special needs and requirements.
  18. The Finland education system also fosters the teacher-student relationship as every student gets the same teacher for up to 6 years in their school.
  19. The students get very less homework and almost finish up everything they get during the school hours only.
  20. The Finnish schools have mixed ability classes to nurture diverse interests and hobbies.
 
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One of the biggest problems with education is what it is not doing. Finland has the best education system in the world. So why are places like the U.S. not doing it.

Well mostly because Finland is a radically different country than the US. Monocultural etc. They do not have some of our big problems like the 1) With the teachers unions, 2) The affects of illegal aliens inflating class sizes and not speaking the language of the land. I came from California and went to private schools when the public schools were much better (Christian avoided them because of the behavioral problems that went on at times), now my home state is the worst in the country because of these reasons.
 
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One of the biggest problems with education is what it is not doing. Finland has the best education system in the world. So why are places like the U.S. not doing it.
Finland Education System.
Want to know why Finland has the best education system in the world? Well, here are the top characteristics of Finland Education System:

  1. The minimum age of starting elementary education in Finland is 7 years thus Finnish kids get to enjoy their childhood and kickstart their learning with their families rather than spending excessive time in schools.
  2. Finnish teachers formulate their own grading systems for the students rather than relying on class exams and standardised tests.
  3. The only mandatory test that Finnish students give is at the age of 16.
  4. Finnish teachers only spend around 4 hours every day teaching in the classroom while they devote 2 hours every week for professional development.
  5. The school system in Finland is wholly 100% state-funded.
  6. The graduates from the top 10 percentile can only apply to become a Teacher in Finland.
  7. Every teacher in Finland is a master’s degree holder which is completely subsidized by the country’s government.
  8. On average, the starting salary of a teacher in Finland is somewhere around $29,000.
  9. Teachers are considered equivalent in status to doctors and lawyers in Finland.
  10. In 2018, the literacy rate in Finland was 99.0%.
  11. Finnish students spend only 20 hours a week at school.
  12. Every student in Finland can speak 2-3 languages.
  13. No competitions between Finnish schools since every academic institution has the same facilities as any other.
  14. Students get to learn new things in schools from baking and industrial works to music and poetry.
  15. For every 45 minutes of learning in schools, Finnish students get to spend every 15 minutes for playing or leisure activities.
  16. Finnish students receive free healthy meals from their schools.
  17. Every Finnish student is provided special services that fit their special needs and requirements.
  18. The Finland education system also fosters the teacher-student relationship as every student gets the same teacher for up to 6 years in their school.
  19. The students get very less homework and almost finish up everything they get during the school hours only.
  20. The Finnish schools have mixed ability classes to nurture diverse interests and hobbies.

That's interesting considering that it's not usually Finnish scientists, engineers, mathematicians and the like that are making groundbreaking advancements in their field. At least, I haven't heard of many or any. That's just me though.
 
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The educational system in the US is not a problem for single Christians. You were told:

Wisdom is supreme; so acquire wisdom. And whatever you may acquire, gain understanding. —Proverbs 4:7

Therefore, you should use this period to prepare and ensure your children won't be subject to the same. You have no excuse. You've seen the handwriting on the wall.

That's a wise application of the scripture. If your children end up in the cesspool, it's your fault. You have no one to blame but yourself.

PS. The OP should read They're not There. :)

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One of the biggest problems with education is what it is not doing. Finland has the best education system in the world. So why are places like the U.S. not doing it.
Finland Education System.
Want to know why Finland has the best education system in the world? Well, here are the top characteristics of Finland Education System:

  1. The minimum age of starting elementary education in Finland is 7 years thus Finnish kids get to enjoy their childhood and kickstart their learning with their families rather than spending excessive time in schools.
  2. Finnish teachers formulate their own grading systems for the students rather than relying on class exams and standardised tests.
  3. The only mandatory test that Finnish students give is at the age of 16.
  4. Finnish teachers only spend around 4 hours every day teaching in the classroom while they devote 2 hours every week for professional development.
  5. The school system in Finland is wholly 100% state-funded.
  6. The graduates from the top 10 percentile can only apply to become a Teacher in Finland.
  7. Every teacher in Finland is a master’s degree holder which is completely subsidized by the country’s government.
  8. On average, the starting salary of a teacher in Finland is somewhere around $29,000.
  9. Teachers are considered equivalent in status to doctors and lawyers in Finland.
  10. In 2018, the literacy rate in Finland was 99.0%.
  11. Finnish students spend only 20 hours a week at school.
  12. Every student in Finland can speak 2-3 languages.
  13. No competitions between Finnish schools since every academic institution has the same facilities as any other.
  14. Students get to learn new things in schools from baking and industrial works to music and poetry.
  15. For every 45 minutes of learning in schools, Finnish students get to spend every 15 minutes for playing or leisure activities.
  16. Finnish students receive free healthy meals from their schools.
  17. Every Finnish student is provided special services that fit their special needs and requirements.
  18. The Finland education system also fosters the teacher-student relationship as every student gets the same teacher for up to 6 years in their school.
  19. The students get very less homework and almost finish up everything they get during the school hours only.
  20. The Finnish schools have mixed ability classes to nurture diverse interests and hobbies.
You can change the spelling of 'there' in your thread title unless you did that intentionally?
 
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You can change the spelling of 'there' in your thread title unless you did that intentionally?
So I’m not the only one with OCD about grammar mistakes in a title? I saw one recently that was driving me crazy lol, “Why isn’t this front age news?”
 
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One of the biggest problems with education is what it is not doing. Finland has the best education system in the world. So why are places like the U.S. not doing it.
Finland Education System.
Want to know why Finland has the best education system in the world? Well, here are the top characteristics of Finland Education System:

  1. The minimum age of starting elementary education in Finland is 7 years thus Finnish kids get to enjoy their childhood and kickstart their learning with their families rather than spending excessive time in schools.
  2. Finnish teachers formulate their own grading systems for the students rather than relying on class exams and standardised tests.
  3. The only mandatory test that Finnish students give is at the age of 16.
  4. Finnish teachers only spend around 4 hours every day teaching in the classroom while they devote 2 hours every week for professional development.
  5. The school system in Finland is wholly 100% state-funded.
  6. The graduates from the top 10 percentile can only apply to become a Teacher in Finland.
  7. Every teacher in Finland is a master’s degree holder which is completely subsidized by the country’s government.
  8. On average, the starting salary of a teacher in Finland is somewhere around $29,000.
  9. Teachers are considered equivalent in status to doctors and lawyers in Finland.
  10. In 2018, the literacy rate in Finland was 99.0%.
  11. Finnish students spend only 20 hours a week at school.
  12. Every student in Finland can speak 2-3 languages.
  13. No competitions between Finnish schools since every academic institution has the same facilities as any other.
  14. Students get to learn new things in schools from baking and industrial works to music and poetry.
  15. For every 45 minutes of learning in schools, Finnish students get to spend every 15 minutes for playing or leisure activities.
  16. Finnish students receive free healthy meals from their schools.
  17. Every Finnish student is provided special services that fit their special needs and requirements.
  18. The Finland education system also fosters the teacher-student relationship as every student gets the same teacher for up to 6 years in their school.
  19. The students get very less homework and almost finish up everything they get during the school hours only.
  20. The Finnish schools have mixed ability classes to nurture diverse interests and hobbies.
Is the punctuation, spelling, and grammar in your thread part of making this point?
 
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One of the biggest problems with education is what it is not doing. Finland has the best education system in the world. So why are places like the U.S. not doing it.
Finland Education System.
Want to know why Finland has the best education system in the world? Well, here are the top characteristics of Finland Education System:

  1. The minimum age of starting elementary education in Finland is 7 years thus Finnish kids get to enjoy their childhood and kickstart their learning with their families rather than spending excessive time in schools.
  2. Finnish teachers formulate their own grading systems for the students rather than relying on class exams and standardised tests.
  3. The only mandatory test that Finnish students give is at the age of 16.
  4. Finnish teachers only spend around 4 hours every day teaching in the classroom while they devote 2 hours every week for professional development.
  5. The school system in Finland is wholly 100% state-funded.
  6. The graduates from the top 10 percentile can only apply to become a Teacher in Finland.
  7. Every teacher in Finland is a master’s degree holder which is completely subsidized by the country’s government.
  8. On average, the starting salary of a teacher in Finland is somewhere around $29,000.
  9. Teachers are considered equivalent in status to doctors and lawyers in Finland.
  10. In 2018, the literacy rate in Finland was 99.0%.
  11. Finnish students spend only 20 hours a week at school.
  12. Every student in Finland can speak 2-3 languages.
  13. No competitions between Finnish schools since every academic institution has the same facilities as any other.
  14. Students get to learn new things in schools from baking and industrial works to music and poetry.
  15. For every 45 minutes of learning in schools, Finnish students get to spend every 15 minutes for playing or leisure activities.
  16. Finnish students receive free healthy meals from their schools.
  17. Every Finnish student is provided special services that fit their special needs and requirements.
  18. The Finland education system also fosters the teacher-student relationship as every student gets the same teacher for up to 6 years in their school.
  19. The students get very less homework and almost finish up everything they get during the school hours only.
  20. The Finnish schools have mixed ability classes to nurture diverse interests and hobbies.
Tax rate in Finland: 56.95%

Sorry, I'll send my kids a lunch and they can pay for post secondary.

I do, however, think it's time for the schools to stop worrying about politics and religion. Start teaching our kids to read, write and do the math....Some history of their country and what freedom really means. Also, how many lives were lost so that they can have their freedom.

Maybe even some financial education like how a mortgage, car payments, credit cards, reward points and other programs work and how to run a budget for a home.

Finland Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2021 Data | 2022-2023 Forecast | Historical
finland-personal-income-tax-rate.png
 
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Well mostly because Finland is a radically different country than the US. Monocultural etc.
according to the world Atlas about 20% of all people in Finland belong to minority cultural groups.

They do not have some of our big problems like the 1) With the teachers unions,
Most Fins are part of a union. The teachers’ union is the OAJ which is a member of the Confederation of Unions for Professional and Managerial Staff in Finland.

2) The affects of illegal aliens inflating class sizes and not speaking the language of the land.
Finland has 6 nationally recognized languages - Finnish, Swedish Saami, Romani, Karelian and Finnish sign language.

I came from California and went to private schools when the public schools were much better (Christian avoided them because of the behavioral problems that went on at times), now my home state is the worst in the country because of these reasons.
according to the BoE
California
Overall Rank: 37
Quality Rank: 38
Safety Rank: 32
 
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Tax rate in Finland: 56.95%

Sorry, I'll send my kids a lunch and they can pay for post secondary.

I do, however, think it's time for the schools to stop worrying about politics and religion. Start teaching our kids to read, write and do the math....Some history of their country and what freedom really means. Also, how many lives were lost so that they can have their freedom.

Maybe even some financial education like how a mortgage, car payments, credit cards, reward points and other programs work and how to run a budget for a home.

Finland Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2021 Data | 2022-2023 Forecast | Historical
finland-personal-income-tax-rate.png
check your source for what the tax rate in the United States is
 
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Finland has the best education system in the world.

Really? Are the Finns the leading innovators in most fields? Do the best engineers, scientists, medical doctors, philosophers etc. mostly come from there? When ranking an education system I would look at how cutting edge the economy of a country is first. After all the best education system should produce the top achievers in the world. Is Finland supplying that? I find that the popular pastime of ranking things is totally subjectively based upon what any particular individual or group of rankers prefer to prioritize and not based upon objective criterion that would be universally agreed upon.
 
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Your title to the thread up for discussion is:

School's are not Teaching, there making kids ignorant

However, if we were going to write it correctly it would be:

Schools Are Not Teaching: They're Making Kids Ignorant

Schools spelled this way is plural nonpossessive - as it should be. They are, when spelled in contraction form, is they're, not there. (Although contractions aren't used in formal writing)

Great example of schools not teaching though! Didn't need to add Finland into the mix, the title alone was quite expressive of the thought process...

haha - just giving you a hard time.. :)
 
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Note that the number at the bottom of the y-axis is not 0. It's 48. A tax rate of 56.95% is still pretty high (so they'd better get some really good services back from the government for that), but the graph makes it look like the increase from 2014 to 2020 was much higher, proportionately, than it was. I don't know why the Trading Economics site chose to create their graph starting at a nonzero y-value.
 
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check your source for what the tax rate in the United States is


Unless you're making more than $163,000.00 per year... Not more than 24%

2020-2021 Tax Brackets and Federal Income Tax Rates | Bankrate
Tax rate Single Head of household Married filing jointly or qualifying widow Married filing separately
Source: IRS
10% $0 to $9,875 $0 to $14,100 $0 to $19,750 $0 to $9,875
12% $9,876 to $40,125 $14,101 to $53,700 $19,751 to $80,250 $9,876 to $40,125
22% $40,126 to $85,525 $53,701 to $85,500 $80,251 to $171,050 $40,126 to $85,525
24% $85,526 to $163,300 $85,501 to $163,300 $171,051 to $326,600 $85,526 to $163,300
32% $163,301 to $207,350 $163,301 to $207,350 $326,601 to $414,700 $163,301 to $207,350
35% $207,351 to $518,400 $207,351 to $518,400 $414,701 to $622,050 $207,351 to $311,025
37% $518,401 or more $518,401 or more $622,051 or more $311,026 or more
 
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Your title to the thread up for discussion is:



However, if we were going to write it correctly it would be:

Schools Are Not Teaching: They're Making Kids Ignorant

Schools spelled this way is plural nonpossessive - as it should be. They are, when spelled in contraction form, is they're, not there. (Although contractions aren't used in formal writing)

Great example of schools not teaching though! Didn't need to add Finland into the mix, the title alone was quite expressive of the thought process...

haha - just giving you a hard time.. :)
I do agree though, the entire education system and curriculum needs to be overhauled...Yes, even in Canada.

But, I am strongly in favor of people paying their own way in life and being a benefit to their country, not a tax burden.
 
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One of the biggest problems with education is what it is not doing. Finland has the best education system in the world. So why are places like the U.S. not doing it.
Finland Education System.
Want to know why Finland has the best education system in the world? Well, here are the top characteristics of Finland Education System:

  1. The minimum age of starting elementary education in Finland is 7 years thus Finnish kids get to enjoy their childhood and kickstart their learning with their families rather than spending excessive time in schools.
  2. Finnish teachers formulate their own grading systems for the students rather than relying on class exams and standardised tests.
  3. The only mandatory test that Finnish students give is at the age of 16.
  4. Finnish teachers only spend around 4 hours every day teaching in the classroom while they devote 2 hours every week for professional development.
  5. The school system in Finland is wholly 100% state-funded.
  6. The graduates from the top 10 percentile can only apply to become a Teacher in Finland.
  7. Every teacher in Finland is a master’s degree holder which is completely subsidized by the country’s government.
  8. On average, the starting salary of a teacher in Finland is somewhere around $29,000.
  9. Teachers are considered equivalent in status to doctors and lawyers in Finland.
  10. In 2018, the literacy rate in Finland was 99.0%.
  11. Finnish students spend only 20 hours a week at school.
  12. Every student in Finland can speak 2-3 languages.
  13. No competitions between Finnish schools since every academic institution has the same facilities as any other.
  14. Students get to learn new things in schools from baking and industrial works to music and poetry.
  15. For every 45 minutes of learning in schools, Finnish students get to spend every 15 minutes for playing or leisure activities.
  16. Finnish students receive free healthy meals from their schools.
  17. Every Finnish student is provided special services that fit their special needs and requirements.
  18. The Finland education system also fosters the teacher-student relationship as every student gets the same teacher for up to 6 years in their school.
  19. The students get very less homework and almost finish up everything they get during the school hours only.
  20. The Finnish schools have mixed ability classes to nurture diverse interests and hobbies.


School's are not Teaching, there making kids ignorant

You must not be from there Finland then hey.
 
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