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School Prayer

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by dreadnought, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. Rajni

    Rajni ☯ Ego ad Eum pertinent ☯ Supporter

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    Let's take a closer look at that:

    “When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites! They love
    to stand up and pray in the houses of worship
    and on the
    street corners, so that everyone will see them. I assure
    you, they have already been paid in full. But when you
    pray, go to your room, close the door, and pray to your
    Father
    , who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what
    you do in private, will reward you." (Matthew 6:5-6)​

    Evidently, houses of worship (churches, nowadays) are not
    exempt from Jesus's criticism regarding how prayer is
    handled.

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  2. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    I think banning prayer in church would be a mistake.
     
  3. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    You've taken this out of context.
     
  4. Rajni

    Rajni ☯ Ego ad Eum pertinent ☯ Supporter

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    Jesus isn't saying anything about banning.
     
  5. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    Aren't you suggesting the church do away with praying together?
     
  6. Rajni

    Rajni ☯ Ego ad Eum pertinent ☯ Supporter

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    I wouldn't go beyond what Jesus stated in Matthew 6:5-6.
     
  7. Archivist

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    This has been explained numerous times but you keep ignoring it. In an earlier post I wrote the following: "There are Christians who would object if their version of the prayer wasn't the one used in schools. Further, the belief in God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is a Christian belief. How could those who practice Wicca or Hinduism not object to a prayer that is directed to "Our Father" when Wiccans worship the God and Goddess and Hindus worship a multitude of Gods? Muslims would object to a prayer that isn't to Allah, and Jews do not believe in the Trinity and so would object the a prayer to "Our Father."
     
  8. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    Well, I believe you've already stated we aren't allowed to pray together.
     
  9. Rajni

    Rajni ☯ Ego ad Eum pertinent ☯ Supporter

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    Please show me in which post I said that.
     
  10. DreadCthulhu

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    *sighs* look up the 1st amendment
     
  11. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    In the name of political correctness, there are those that want to accommodate all people, no matter how good or how evil. And so, evil creeps into our society.

    As for the rest of us, we know there is one God. It doesn't matter what you call him, as long as you believe that's his name. It shouldn't bother us that Muslims call him "Allah," and it shouldn't bother Muslims that we don't.

    If a religion, be it Wicca or Hindu, worships another god, why should it bother us if we offend them? And if people can't tolerate our calling our Lord "Father," why should we care?
     
  12. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    Well, I'm debating several people, and I can't keep track of who says what. So then you're okay with school prayer?
     
  13. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    *sighs* looks at what is happening to his country
     
  14. DreadCthulhu

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    Is that from my point of view, or yours?
     
  15. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    I think a country that is imitating Sodom and Gomorrah has seen its best days.
     
  16. DreadCthulhu

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    I'm pretty confused. Are you referring to America, or Canada?
     
  17. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    America. How are things going up in Canada?
     
  18. Archivist

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    There is thus little thing called the 1st Amendment to the Constitution that forbids the establishment of religion. If you require a Christian prayer—and whether you will admit it or not the Lord’s Prayer is a Christian prayer—then you are establishing a religion. I’ve had enough of your refusal to accept reality so I’m out of here.
     
  19. dreadnought

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    We're not establishing religion by publicly asking the Lord to help us.
     
  20. Rajni

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    Only if it's done as Jesus directed:

    “When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites! They love
    to stand up and pray in the houses of worship and on the
    street corners, so that everyone will see them. I assure
    you, they have already been paid in full. But when you
    pray, go to your room, close the door, and pray to your
    Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what
    you do in private, will reward you." (Matthew 6:5-6)
     
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