School faces lawsuit for making student remove 'only two genders' shirt: 'Censoring a 7th-grader'

[dzheremi]

What's the point of these million and a half go-arounds on what we all already know are irreconcilable viewpoints, vis-a-vis abortion and the like? Obviously someone who does not view abortion as murder to begin with is not going to be joining together on those grounds with anyone who does. You're not working from a common definition of reality. Why not accept it and move on to something else, or shift your posting to be more about comparison rather than building alliances on matters that you're not actually in agreement on in the first place? There are probably a fair number of individual issues that the atheist posters here and at least some of the Christians might be more able to come together on, but it doesn't seem like the issue at hand in this thread, or in the subsequent diversion onto the subject of abortion, is one of them.

 

[Bradskii]

What's the point of these million and a half go-arounds on what we all already know are irreconcilable viewpoints, vis-a-vis abortion and the like?

I'm afraid there isn't a negative comment one could make about any subject where there isn't a knee jerk reaction by someone at some time.

You lost your job? That's terrible.
Oh so you don't think abortion is terrible?

Those numbers seem high.
You think those numbers are high...

Gee, that shouldn't be allowed.
And you don't think abortion...

Etc etc

 

[Bradskii]

What's wrong is you accusing me of the same thing you're doing according to your own standards.

Today the new threads are:

What denominations are known for their communal living?

Pentecost/Shavuot (in a nutshell) what's it all about?

Christ's Resurrection! The power to bring in the new creation through His Body. An exposition of Eph.1:15-23.

Great Catholic Music ...

Losing salvation

Why does the Gospel contain nothing about believing Yeshua is God?

Why is God road blocking my path to change?

Making the world a better place.

Trump workers moved Mar-a-Lago boxes a day before FBI came for documents

OCD HELP

The Trinity

Desantis enters Presidential race

Defiant Oath Keepers founder gets 18 years in prison, longest 1/6 sentence yet

Church planting near Chisto-paganism. Churches closed, pastors pressured. Taliban persecution increasing.

Bible Study Software ??

Evening All.

Is there goodness in culture's definition of men and women even if the Bible remains silent on it?

Chicken Fricassee

Big White Dogs Save the World’s Smallest Penguin in Australia

Is it a sin to miss church service?

Dems give Marjorie Taylor a standing ovation

Adorable Photos Show a Newborn Litter of Critically-Endangered Scottish Wildcat Kittens

You should have checked the next page. Where we have threads on...

Gender
Target boycot due to lgbt merch
War against lgbt
Sexual grooming
Abortion

So that's 10% on a random day. Any about gambling? Idolatry? Drinking? Gambling? Lying? Theft? Nup, just another few threads about sex.

 

[Bradskii]

In this case it's the suggestion of killing gay people is horrific (which it is) vs actually killing millions of healthy very much alive babies before they're born is acceptable.

You're still struggling with your terminology I'm afraid.

 

[Bradskii]

That doesn't cover killing a child before their born or a year after they're born. You're deflecting with cherry picking.

It's a baby when it's born. Infanticide is in the first year. When it's a baby. Please, get your terminology correct. No babies are killed.

 

[Bradskii]

And I missed one on the first page about the differences between men and women, specifically as it refers to gender. So we're 12%, not 10%. To be honest, I wouldn't have thought it was that high. But there you go...

 

[Bradskii]

You're leaving out that most of those were posted by the same person.

If a thread was posted about alcoholism being bad, everyone would be in agreement.

If a thread was posted about gambling addiction being bad, everyone would be in agreement.

When a thread about sexual immorality being bad is posted, many speak in favor of sexual immorality.

Three different people actually. And it's still 12% of the total. You thought it was zero. You posted a list you said contained zero examples. You were wrong both times. And we're not talking about the amount of disagreement. It's what people think is important to them as Christians on a Christian forum. It's problems in society that they consider to be sinful. Problems they think need to be solved.

And you know what? All bar one were posted in areas only open to Christians. Where everyone would be in agreement. And you say people don't post on matters where there is agreement. I guess you're wrong there as well.

 

[Bradskii]

You're the one who's getting it wrong...

I think we're done with this. You thought there was no evidence of what I suggested. You posted a list you thought verified it. You were quite wrong. Feel free to double down, but there's no more that I can or need to add.

 

[rjs330]

If you think that's a problem, offer a solution.

Why do I need to offer a solution. They created their own problem. If you create a problem it's not my job to fix it for you. You figure it out.

No you can't use the women's spaces. So, what you going to do?

 

[rjs330]

And vica versa. If it's a problem at some relatively high level, then decisions need to be made. Solutions offered. Make some.

Why? Why are you so against women? Why are you for men bullying women like that?

 

[rjs330]

He and his parents can protest as they see fit. They can ring news stations. They can contact newspapers. They can emply legal eagles. Just don't expect political posturing to be acceptable in schools.

Why not? Your side does it all the time. How hypocritical an argument. And since it is, we can feel free to ignore it.

 

[Bradskii]

Why do I need to offer a solution.

That's what reasonable people do.

 

[Bradskii]

Why? Why are you so against women? Why are you for men bullying women like that?

I'm all for not making a blanket rule for situations that have umpteen variables. If a transgender male is OK to compete against males then the same applies to transgender women, all things being equal. But two examples are almost certainly not equal. So individual solutions would be needed for individual problems. Just like in a bathroom situation.

 

[rjs330]

Ok but my concern is the schools promoting the idea that this type of behavior is acceptable in society. I already have a 17 year old daughter who is now agnostic because of her school teachings. She was a believer now she is uncertain and I can talk to her about God but I can’t make her believe again. I’m completely fine with sinners being in the world we’ll never stop that but my concern is the schools undoing what I have taught my children thru the scriptures.

I completely agree. That's why schools shouldn't teaching any of this trash. They shouldn't be supporting it, singing about it and none of the teachers should be wearing rainbow clothes.

But I'm not for telling kids what they can and cannot wear. Cause it's never delt with equitably like in the OP.

If you really want to be fair make all the kinds wear a school uniform. I'd be okay with that.

 

[Bradskii]

Why not? Your side does it all the time. How hypocritical an argument. And since it is, we can feel free to ignore it.

I'm on record in saying that no political posturing, be it right or left wing, should be permitted by any children in schools.

 

[Ordinary Christian]

There were two chart topping songs about a transwoman in 1970 and 1972.

Drag queens have been around forever.

There's never been a huge issue over gender before.

Much less it all revolving around children.

Just all of a sudden these things have been been made into an LGBTQA+ battlefront.

 

[Larnievc]

It's hateful towards those who believe there are only two genders.

It’s not hateful. Not agreeing with Christian rules is not hateful. Again this boils down to Christians trying to tell non Christians how to live their lives. Your Bible tells you that you will be hated and persecuted for your behaviour.

Own it.

 

[Larnievc]

The majority of the Muslim world holds belief in Sharia law in some form... I certainly was not alone in holding that belief. How many Muslims are there in the world again?

So? Religious people (particularly Christians) wax lyrical about their ethical framework. If one needs an external motivator to believe killing gay people for being gay is wrong it implies that said hypothetical Christian doesn’t have an internal (religious belief independent) ethical framework.

Which is terrifying if that’s how most Christians are.

 

[Ordinary Christian]

It’s not hateful. Not agreeing with Christian rules is not hateful. Again this boils down to Christians trying to tell non Christians how to live their lives. Your Bible tells you that you will be hated and persecuted for your behaviour.

Own it.

Then it's not hateful to disagree with LGBTQA+ rules.

What evidence do you have that Liam Morrison is a Christian? In all probability it's not just Christians who don't subscribe to their being multiple genders.

 

[Larnievc]

Some are looking to be offended.

You do realise that it is Christians who are taking offence? If you did not take offence there would be no problem.