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Scholars on BOTH sides agree - Saturday is the seventh day - the Sabbath of Exodus 20

Discussion in 'Sabbath and The Law' started by BobRyan, Jul 16, 2017.

  1. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    Really? Where does it say in HEBREWS 4 that Jesus is a Sabbath? (scripture please as you have not provided any so far)

    Happy to discuss HEBREWS 3 and 4 with you if you like?
     
  2. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    I'm sure your words are fine. I'm just telling you when I ask a simple question, I won't read a beat around the bush long post.

    All I want to know is if you know what was given on Mt. Sinai? The Ten Commandments? The Book of Ordinances? Both? Which?
     
  3. LoveGodsWord

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    You were posted a very detailed response to your question answered with God's WORD in post #336 linked and you say you do not want to read it because there is too many scriptures in it? How about you read what I posted to you? Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.
     
  4. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    The Sabbath points to God's grace, which only comes through Jesus. Trust - Rest - Faith - Belief whichever word you choose. If Jesus isn't the substance of your trust, rest, faith and belief, and you choose a day of the week instead, you are on shaky ground.
     
  5. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    Because it is already 2:21 am!
     
  6. LoveGodsWord

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    I gathered that it was late from the posts you are sending. Go get some rest if your tired and chat more latter.
     
  7. LoveGodsWord

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    Well that is not true. How can the Sabbath point to God's Grace (salvation) if the Sabbath is part of the finished work of creation BEFORE sin entered the world?
     
  8. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    I went back to #336 and you didn't answer my question. So let me ask a different question.

    Was the Book of Ordinances given on Mt. Sinai with the 10C, or where. I thought I read somewhere that the book was dictated by angels to Moses. So can you say yes or no as an answer and let me go to bed.
     
  9. LoveGodsWord

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    Well that is not true. Post # 336 did indeed answer your questions the first two quoted scriptures show that the OLD COVENANT is made up of both God's 10 Commandments and the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT of SHADOW laws for the remission of sins. Together both God's 10 Commandments and the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT made up the OLD COVENANT. God's LAW as always gives a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is but makes nothing perfect. The MOSAIC laws for remission of sin is now people receved forgiveness of sins in the OLD COVENANT. It is these that pointed to JESUS and the NEW COVENANT promise through Christs perfect sacrifice for sins that we are saved in the NEW.

    It is the MOSCIAC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT that were SHADOWS pointing to JESUS and the NEW COVENANT.

    Maybe you need to get some rest?
     
  10. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    You have no idea that God is outside space and time do you?


    1 Peter 1:20
    He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you

    Revelation 13:8
    All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    Do you honestly believe the God actually needed to rest? NO! He was pointing to His Rest. For the Jews under the schoolmaster law, they needed an outward thing to do, thus keep the Sabbath day holy. No one before the Jews, keep the Sabbath. But spiritually, it was not God's Rest. God's Rest is faith - grace - belief - trust. That is the gospel. And Jesus is the center of God's Rest.
     
  11. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    That still does not answer where physically the Book was dictated to Moses does it? No. So do you know or not?
     
  12. LoveGodsWord

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    Perhaps you need to get some rest. What you have posted does not address my question to you and the scriptures you have posted are not releavant.
     
  13. LoveGodsWord

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    Sorry your not making much sense now. Your question which was answered was...

     
  14. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    Yes, those too.
     
  15. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    This question is not hard. When Moses went up the mountain, did God give Him the Book of the Ordinances. You know Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy?

    I'm not asking about what is in the Book, but the book itself. Where was Moses when it was dictated to him?
     
  16. LoveGodsWord

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    hmm Yes those too what? Go get some rest 1stcenturylady, seems you are tired now
     
  17. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    Yes, they are relevant. You claim the Sabbath couldn't be a foreshadow of God's grace because sin hadn't happened yet. Well, then why does scripture say Jesus was slain BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. That was before sin, also.
     
  18. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    Don't play dumb and say I'm not making sense. Where was Moses when he received the Mosaic law.

    I don't know how many other ways to ask the same question.

    I can't go to bed until you answer, so stop wasting so much time. If you don't know, just say so, and we will stop.
     
  19. LoveGodsWord

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    God gave direction for the MOSIAC BOOK OF THE COVENANT, some of it directly as well as the Holy Spirit until completed...

    EXODUS 34:1-35
     
  20. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    So on Mt. Sinai? Verse 21 has the Sabbath commandment. And there was a few things about the sacrifices.
     
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