San Diego Schools Forcing Islamic Lessons on All Students, Providing Safe Spaces for Muslims

[Hank77]

Yes, I know what you mean.
Children need to know about Christianity.

Schools around here do celebrate Christmas and Easter.
The schools can't teach religion, but they can teach ABOUT religion, and they do.
Much of our history lessons deal with religion.
Christian children should already know the tenets of Christianity and bring this knowledge with them to school.
It helps them understand history.
But they have to be TAUGHT Christianity, and schools aren't allowed to do this.
We have to do it.

I agree that it is up to parents to teach their children about their faith. I wouldn't want a teacher that is not even a Christian teaching mine the doctrines of Christianity in any depth.

Schools cannot, as far as I know, put on Christmas pageant plays and Easter is celebrate with eggs and bunnies not crosses and Jesus unless the students do it all themselves without any school employee participation. And then other students cannot be forced to attend any such event.

The San Diego school system is sponsoring events for Muslim holidays, etc. that children are required to attend. They are not going to do the same for Christian or Jewish, etc. religions.

They say it is to help combat bullying of Muslim children. Sorry that isn't a good enough excuse. These are kids and they need to be quickly instructed on the rights of others and that they aren't king of the roost. If they do it again there will be severe consequences.
The school needs to have a consistent plan for what those consequences will be and make all the kids and parents aware of those rules. The consequences should be geared to the age of the child. It takes time for kids to grow into mature self-control.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Thanks to an astonishing 4-0 vote by the San Diego Unified School District, all public school students will be forced to endure religious classes about Islam while Muslim students are protected from bullying with designated safe spaces.

According to The San Diego Union Tribune, it’s all a “part of a multi-tiered approach to combat Islamophobia":

San Diego Unified School District administrators and teachers will have calendars showing Islamic holidays, students will learn more about the religion in social studies classes and safe places will be created on campuses for Muslim students as part of a multi-tiered approach to combat Islamophobia. READ MORE​

San Diego Schools Forcing Islamic Lessons on All Students, Providing Safe Spaces for Muslims

Muslims are coming. Muslims are coming.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

No worries: "Come out of her, my people."

As a Christian, AND a citizen. I must be active on both fronts. I can't excuse siting on my hands as evil prospers anymore than the boys who went to war to stop Hitler in WW2 did. They acted and prayed.

 

[Cyprezz]

"San Diego Unified School District administrators and teachers will have calendars showing Islamic holidays, students will learn more about the religion in social studies classes and safe places will be created on campuses for Muslim students as part of a multi-tiered approach to combat Islamophobia."

"The plan also calls for a different approach in disciplining students who bully Muslim students. Rather than detention, the school will use a restorative justice method involving the student who did the bullying speaking with the other student to restore their relationship"


Did people actually read the article or the sensationalist forum topic? They're just kids for crying out loud. Regardless of their religion they should be able to feel safe in school. While I think the anti-Islamophobia/ anti-bullying tactics should perhaps be aimed at a wider audience of the school, there's no reason why these other measures shouldn't be introduced.

Other than that, in my opinion, religion in any form shouldn't be a part of standard-curriculum, however if PUBLIC schools are teaching about Christianity, they should also touch on other religions as well. Ignorance really isn't bliss. Extra-curricular activities, go for the moon, but mandatory classes should be equally split between different topics and not one topic holding a monopoly.

And before I get called out "but that's not what they do in (enter middle east country here)!" that doesn't matter to me. I'll advocate for all sorts of classes and topics to be taught everywhere. Science, math, dance, you name it.

There's so much to learn about in the world; why restrict children to learn only what you know?

 

[The Brown Brink]

I think it's great that the students are asked to talk about their relationships with each other.
I think that's what Jesus would want.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

"San Diego Unified School District administrators and teachers will have calendars showing Islamic holidays, students will learn more about the religion in social studies classes and safe places will be created on campuses for Muslim students as part of a multi-tiered approach to combat Islamophobia."

"The plan also calls for a different approach in disciplining students who bully Muslim students. Rather than detention, the school will use a restorative justice method involving the student who did the bullying speaking with the other student to restore their relationship"


Did people actually read the article or the sensationalist forum topic? They're just kids for crying out loud. Regardless of their religion they should be able to feel safe in school. While I think the anti-Islamophobia/ anti-bullying tactics should perhaps be aimed at a wider audience of the school, there's no reason why these other measures shouldn't be introduced.

Other than that, in my opinion, religion in any form shouldn't be a part of standard-curriculum, however if PUBLIC schools are teaching about Christianity, they should also touch on other religions as well. Ignorance really isn't bliss. Extra-curricular activities, go for the moon, but mandatory classes should be equally split between different topics and not one topic holding a monopoly.

And before I get called out "but that's not what they do in (enter middle east country here)!" that doesn't matter to me. I'll advocate for all sorts of classes and topics to be taught everywhere. Science, math, dance, you name it.

There's so much to learn about in the world; why restrict children to learn only what you know?

So you think false gods are harmless, and even healthy for children to be exposed to, if I hear you correctly.

 

[The Brown Brink]

So you think false gods are harmless, and even healthy for children to be exposed to, if I her you correctly.

If children have accurate information, they are less likely to be misled.
Knowledge is power.

 

[Cyprezz]

So you think false gods are harmless, and even healthy for children to be exposed to, if I hear you correctly.

You don't.

Kids are either gonna learn in school where information can be (SHOULD be) explained in a rational manner, or they could get their information from bias, sensationalist sources on the internet like some

Can't hide things from curious teenagers; you can advise them and explain things but definitely can't hide. Learnt THAT the hard way.

 

[Armoured]

If it was going to be taught fairly and accurately then I would have no problem, but I'm pretty sure it will just be deceptive propaganda. They won't mention the commands to kill the unbelievers and will just focus on the few peaceful verses without informing them that these verses no longer apply and have been abrogated by the violent ones.

Gee, that seems like an objective and non agenda driven understanding, they should totally teach that.

 

[Mountainmike]

Are the same schools obliged to teach Christianity?

Thanks to an astonishing 4-0 vote by the San Diego Unified School District, all public school students will be forced to endure religious classes about Islam while Muslim students are protected from bullying with designated safe spaces.

According to The San Diego Union Tribune, it’s all a “part of a multi-tiered approach to combat Islamophobia":

San Diego Unified School District administrators and teachers will have calendars showing Islamic holidays, students will learn more about the religion in social studies classes and safe places will be created on campuses for Muslim students as part of a multi-tiered approach to combat Islamophobia. READ MORE​

San Diego Schools Forcing Islamic Lessons on All Students, Providing Safe Spaces for Muslims

 

[jimmyjimmy]

You don't.

Kids are either gonna learn in school where information can be (SHOULD be) explained in a rational manner, or they could get their information from bias, sensationalist sources on the internet like some

Can't hide things from curious teenagers; you can advise them and explain things but definitely can't hide. Learnt THAT the hard way.

I would never trust a government-run school to teach children about religion, in the way in which they are now doing in San Diego, CA. I don't even trust them to teach math.

 

[Hank77]

I think it's great that the students are asked to talk about their relationships with each other.
I think that's what Jesus would want.

I agree that should be a part of getting along. But it should be for all problems of bullying not just Muslim bullying.

 

[Armoured]

I agree that should be a part of getting along. But it should be for all problems of bullying not just Muslim bullying.

True. But if bullying against Muslims is particularly prevalent?

 

[Hank77]

True. But if bullying against Muslims is particularly prevalent?

When one group is favored over another it often brings resentment rather than understanding and peace.
Muslim kids get a safe space but other kids that are consistently bullied aren't?
We've seen over and over kids that commit suicide or become violent because of consistent bullying. Sometimes they are bullied over things they over no power over whatsoever. Aspy kids are often bullied and they have serious issues with understanding why. They are so hurt that they become seriously depressed. Adults will accuse them of lying because they often cannot make eye contact when conversing. Believe me they need a safe place more than most.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Americans, learn this:

lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muḥammadur-rasūlu-llāh

Seems like soon you'll need it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

As a Christian, AND a citizen. I must be active on both fronts. I can't excuse siting on my hands as evil prospers anymore than the boys who went to war to stop Hitler in WW2 did. They acted and prayed.

I don't have the energy to be more than 'passive' in my contributions to society.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I don't have the energy to be more than 'passive' in my contributions to society.

I'm not far behind you.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Muslims are coming. Muslims are coming.

I just wonder how Spain got rid of the Muslim savages that invaded their land. I'm sure it wasn't by providing safe spaces and curbing Muslm bullying.

...I don't mind Muslim bullying to be honest, and I teach my kids to never trust them. I'll fight for my culture.

 

[Humble me Lord]

Arrrgh...why do people keep referring to Islam as a religion.

It is an ideology, so should be named Islamism, like communism, socialism, etc.
Until this is realized, this kind of nonsense will continue to grow with the PC agenda.
I have no problem with them teaching kids about Islamism, but do you think they are going to teach them about christianity, no, they still teach them we came from monkeys.
Its a double standard!

 

[The Brown Brink]

I would never trust a government-run school to teach children about religion, in the way in which they are now doing in San Diego, CA. I don't even trust them to teach math.

Why not?