SALVATION: What is it BIBLICALLY?

[frienden thalord]

How do YOU continue in Christ?

Follow the SPIRIT of course...............but many know not the SPIRIT.
most don't realize the spirit can be quenched
and if a man has not the SPIRIT of CHRIST.......he is none of his.
if you don't KNOW what I speak of .........
anyone that is born of the SPIRIT knows what I say by FOLLOW the SPIRIT.

 

[Ron Gurley]

SEE ALSO:

What must an UNBELIEVER "DO" to "BE" "SAVED"?

 

[Kenny'sID]

He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the (Lamb's) book of life,
and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

How do you define the word "overcome"?

 

[frienden thalord]

How do you define the word "overcome"?

Man Kenny what a beautiful question . Let us wait for Rons answer.
OH I pray it aint like most answer. For by grace I know that answer. But most wont LIKE IT a bit.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Man Kenny what a beautiful question . Let us wait for Rons answer.
OH I pray it aint like most answer. For by grace I know that answer. But most wont LIKE IT a bit.

I'm not holding my breath for an answer.

 

[Ron Gurley]

OVERCOME : Did everybody Google that word or run it through a Bible search engine? I did.

POST#43/45 RESPONSE...

1 John 5:5...for BELIEVERS by John the Elder
Who is the one who OVERCOMES the world,
but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

is the one who overcomes...Greek 3528...nikao...
A.to carry off the victory, come off victorious
i.of Christ, victorious over all His foes
ii.of Christians, that hold fast their faith even unto death against the power of their foes, and temptations and persecutions
iii.when one is arraigned or goes to law, to win the case, maintain one's cause

I though that I had posted this. Duplicate?

 

[Kenny'sID]

I though that I had posted this. Duplicate?

I seriously doubt anyone here will be searching to see who "may" have posted what here. And, Ron, if you would please, quote to whom you are replying to so we can have a better chance of knowing you have replied, so we can respond.

1 John 5:5...for BELIEVERS by John the Elder
Who is the one who OVERCOMES the world,
but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

Before I go on, I just need to be certain you are saying that simply knowing in our heart Jesus is the Son of God, is that ALL that we need do to overcome the world?

Also, what exactly do you feel is involved in "Overcoming the world"?

 

[Ron Gurley]

POSTS#43/45 <<<<RESPONSE THERETO

overcomes...Greek 3528...nikao...
A.to carry off the victory, come off victorious
i.of Christ, victorious over all His foes
ii.of Christians, that hold fast their faith even unto death against the power of their foes, and temptations and persecutions
iii.when one is arraigned or goes to law, to win the case, maintain one's cause

 

[Kenny'sID]

POSTS#43/45 <<<<RESPONSE THERETO

overcomes...Greek 3528...nikao...
A.to carry off the victory, come off victorious
i.of Christ, victorious over all His foes
ii.of Christians, that hold fast their faith even unto death against the power of their foes, and temptations and persecutions
iii.when one is arraigned or goes to law, to win the case, maintain one's cause

OK, If you can't answer the questions, and as usual on this topic, that fact pretty well speaks for it self.

Thanks just the same, Ron.

For those of you who are sincerely trying to figure out if we as Christians really have to do as God/Jesus requires of us or if there is no requirement at all but to say we believe/grace only, please notice how those arguing for the latter jump ship so regularly during debate.

Enough said..

 

[Ron Gurley]

RESPONSE TO POST#10: "
we would have to OMIT a whole lot of "warnings".
a whole lot.

QUESTIONS:
1. Who gave them?
2. To whom were they given?
3. Why were they given?
4. Copy + Paste verses HERE which all such "warnings".

 

[Ron Gurley]

The SCRIPTURES and SALVATION
(ALL NASB)

Matthew 21:42...Jesus said to them, (chief priests/elders/Jewish leaders)
“Did you never read in the Scriptures,
‘The stone which the builders rejected,
This became the chief corner stone;
This came about from the LORD,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?

the Scriptures...GREEK 1124...graphē...a writing, thing written; the Scripture, used to denote either the book itself, or its contents;a certain portion or section of the Holy Scripture

1 Corinthians 15:3
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died FOR our sins according to the Scriptures,

1 Corinthians 15:4
and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

Matthew 22:29...But Jesus answered and said to them,(Sadducees)
“You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.

Luke 24:27, 32, 45...post-resurrection Jesus to His 11 apostles + 2 on the road
Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets,
He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures....
(2 on road to Emmaeus)
They said to one another,
“Were not our hearts burning within us (God the Holy Spirit)while He was speaking to us on the road,
while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?”...
Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,

John 5:39 [ Witness of the Scripture ]
You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life;
it is these that testify about Me;

Acts 18:28...Paul Preaches
for he powerfully refuted the Jews in public,
demonstrating by the Scriptures that Jesus was the Christ.

Romans 1:2...the gospel of God,
which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures,

Romans 16:26
but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;

 

[Ron Gurley]

Q: "How does one CONTINUE in (IN THE GRACE)Christ?

A: The PROCESS of SANCTIFICATION.

SANCTIFICATION:

"sanctification"...Greek 38...hagiasmos...
I.consecration, purification...II.the effect of consecration A.sanctification (setting aside) of heart and life

Romans 6:19, 22 (all NASB)
I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh.
For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness,
resulting in further lawlessness,
so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification....
But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, (of salvation)
resulting in sanctification, and
the outcome, eternal life.


1 Col. 1:30
But by His doing you are IN Christ Jesus,
who became to us wisdom from God, and
righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,


1 Thess. 4:3...For this is the will of God, your sanctification;


2 Thess 2:13
But we should always give thanks to God for you,
brethren beloved by the Lord,
because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification
by (God) the Holy Spirit and faith in the truth.

PROGRESSIVE SANCTIFICATION: A PROCESS!

POSITION versus PRACTICE...

"How God views Man's spirit
VERSUS
"Christian Living"

I WAS SAVED from the PRISON of SIN in the PAST....simple "saving faith"...Ephesians 2:8

1. Substitution: "in the place of"
2. Redemption: " pay ransom, remove, and release "
3. Reconciliation: "alienation ends"
4. Propititation: "satisfaction with action"
5. Sin Nature Judged: "good overcomes bad"...nature changed
6. Justification: "view: Just-if-I..never" SINNED by the Advocate
7. Sanctification: 'process of being set aside for God, being more holy, following

I AM BEING saved from the POWER of SIN in the PRESENT
....influence of the PERMANENTLY indwelling God the Holy Spirit, guiding "battles" against the foes.
Sanctification (setting apart) is Progressive.
"Good works" are guided by God the Holy Spirit to eventual "Judgement of Believer's Works."
Faith put to WORK! ...Becoming more Christ-like by following His precepts and Spiritual guidance.
Philippians 2:12 ...work out...Hebrews 12:1 ...run race

NOTE: (Saving) FAITH without (spiritully guided following ) WORKS is DEAD (judged spiritually useless).

I WILL BE saved from the PRESENCE of SIN in the FUTURE
...Eternity in the NEW Heavens and NEW Earth and NEW Jerusalem, with the Tri-Une God! Revelation!

The Spiritual Gift of Grace of God + The Spirit-Led Belief of Man = Spiritual SALVATION EVENT...then... Past / Present / Future SANCTIFICATION PROCESS

 

[Stephen Douglas]

Yup. Justification is the event of realizing that Jesus is the Son of the living God who sacrificed Himself for the redemption of sins. Salvation is the process that is described in Romans 8:29-30.

For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.