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Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by FineLinen, Sep 10, 2019 at 7:33 AM.

  1. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    There is an Aussie invasion taking place. LOL

    The rascals the most Holy One touches is a sight to behold. He turns murdering Saul's into broken transformed saints of exquisite grandeur.

    What a terrible awakening transpires in our broken lives when for the first time we hear>>>

    You did not choose Me
     
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  2. Shrewd Manager

    Shrewd Manager Through him, in all things, more than conquerors. Supporter

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    That's it, often people find Jesus when they come to the end of themselves. That's why his name is Salvation. It's sad to find those so hardened that they would prefer to cling on to their poverty than take a chance on the riches of God's grace.
     
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  3. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    What a terrible awakening transpires to those who hear from Jesus:

    "Depart from me. I never knew you."

    "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." ~Heb 10:31
     
  4. Shrewd Manager

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    Not at all, Jesus is the only way. I'm saying that when all the sin, the sorceries of Babylon and the devil's pernicious deceits that blind eyes and harden hearts are removed, we are drawn by irresistible grace. When our hearts are exposed to God's love revealed in Christ, we fall to our knees crying 'Abba father'. Because all men's hearts bear the manufacturer's name.

    His glory is in salvation. The angels rejoice. With Him nothing is impossible.
     
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  5. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    This makes no sense.
     
  6. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Dear Brinny; I know of no hands in which I would rather fall!

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    The verse is referring to the living God, El Elyon, the Holy One of Israel, as Judge.

    Anyone falling in the hands of the living God without the righteousness of Jesus the Christ is falling into the hands of a Holy God as Judge.

    This is what the verse is referring to.

    This also comes to mind:

     
  8. Shrewd Manager

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    Sorry to hear that, Brinny. How about this:

    Yahusha = His salvation.
    Jesus is the beginning and the end.
    HIS SALVATION IS THE ALEPH AND THE TAV.

    Translation: salvation through Christ is God's plan and objective.
    He has purposed it and He will do it.

    Pure and simple.
     
  9. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    How does your post answer this ?:
    By the way, what you posted...is that from the Bible?
     
  10. Redwingfan9

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    This is a great comfort to his people. It is a great blessing to know that our salvation isn't dependent on us but is dependent on him alone.
     
  11. Shrewd Manager

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    I'm sorry Brinny but I can't put it any more simply.

    Surely you jest.

    Past my bedtime, good night God bless.
     
  12. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    If it's from the Bible, what verses did you post?

    The simplest is from God's own Word.

    God is not the Author of confusion.

    This comes to mind:

    [​IMG]
     
  13. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Dear Brinny: Salvation comes from the Author & Finisher. It is rooted entirely within Himself.

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    The purpose He has cherished within Himself

    One wee question for you>>>>

    Do you know what "not willingly" means?

    The whole of created life was made subject to futility not willingly, but by reason of Him who made it so...
     
  14. DamianWarS

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    so either you have it or you don't... sad news indeed for those who don't have it and for those who do... seems fortunate news would be a better word to use.
     
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  15. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    This makes no sense.
     
  16. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    You quoted John 15:16 but what about the rest of that statement?

    You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.

    This is basically like Jesus saying I have chosen you to do a job so do it.

    What is the message Jesus is trying to convey to His 11 faithful apostles?

    “"I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples. Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love. If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full. "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you. You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you. This I command you, that you love one another.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭15:1-17‬ ‭NASB‬‬
     
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  17. ~Zao~

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    A job to do is not the same as having the Holy Spirit to gain biblical understanding and guidance in life.

    Abiding, living in His love, has nothing to do with being in obedience to carry out a job assigned.
     
  18. FineLinen

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    Dear Damian: The Father of all fathers places His plans in no weak vessels of flesh and blood! His glorious Plan is entirely within Himself where it originates, and in Himself where it consummates.

    From Him the all, thru Him the all, in Him te all

    Welcome to the God of ta panta!
     
  19. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    :scratch:
     
  20. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    How do you reconcile Romans 11:17-23 with that statement? Who grafts in the branches and why? Who breaks them off and why? How can branches who are grafted in be broken off if it is entirely God’s doing?

    And what about the messages to the 7 churches in Revelation 2-3? Why does Jesus warn them of being spit out of His mouth and coming quickly to them if it is all God’s doing? Why have they become lukewarm, gone astray from their first love, and compromised sin if it’s all God’s doing?
     
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