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Roger Stone: Guilty on All Counts

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by iluvatar5150, Nov 15, 2019.

  1. Kentonio

    Kentonio Well-Known Member

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    All 4 prosecutors have now resigned.
     
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  2. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Thanks. Here's a link.

    The four federal prosecutors who took the case against longtime Donald Trump confidant Roger Stone to trial withdrew their involvement Tuesday after top Justice Department officials disavowed and undercut them by reducing the government's recommended sentence against Stone.

    Soon after the revised recommendation was made, the four prosecutors who had worked on the trial, Aaron S.J. Zelinsky, Jonathan Kravis, Adam Jed and Mike Marando, filed a motion to withdraw from the case. Zelinsky and Kravis both resigned from the DC US attorney's office.
     
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  3. Paulos23

    Paulos23 Never tell me the odds!

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    That is really messed up.

    This is just the start of Trump off his chain....
     
  4. genez

    genez Contributor Supporter

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    And... which denomination might the be?
     
  5. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Well-Known Member

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  6. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Donaldist, most likely.
     
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  7. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    If Trump doesn't use his new-found powers of 'Justice' to lock Hillary up, even his supporters may figure out that was all phony baloney.
     
  8. DaisyDay

    DaisyDay blind squirrel

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    bhsmte Newbie

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    The goofy thing about this is the recommendation was excessive and even legal pundits on CNN agreed. I think gorden liddy only got like 2 years and all the rest of the watergate gang, even less.

    Of course it looks bad when the president sounds off in public on this, but that is dandy don for you.
     
  10. Tom 1

    Tom 1 Optimistic sceptic Supporter

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    Were those people you mention convicted of several crimes? 7 convictions = 7 sentences. A year or so apiece doesn't seem so excessive. I understand the max sentence is around 50 yrs.
     
  11. Larnievc

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    Wow. America is so corrupt. I think any good will it had from being paid to support the Allies is WW2 has long since dried up.

    History is not going to be kind.
     
  12. GreatLakes4Ever

    GreatLakes4Ever Well-Known Member

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    A large percentage of Trump supporters are old and plan to be dead before it becomes an issue so not their problem. Another significant percentage believes Jesus will be coming back. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but maybe tomorrow. They’re planning on being heaven before it becomes a real problem.
     
  13. stevil

    stevil Godless and without morals

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    Its hard to have a free Democracy when your Justice Department are at the beck and call of your rouge President.

    I'm surprised that thousands haven't resigned from that department.
     
  14. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    ...and did they defy a judge's order?

    Mr. Stone, 67, deserved seven to nine years behind bars because he threatened the witness with bodily harm, interfered with a congressional investigation and then, after he was charged in a federal indictment, repeatedly flouted the orders of the judge overseeing his case, the prosecutors wrote in a sentencing memorandum.
    Prosecutors Recommend Roger Stone Receive Up to 9 Years in Prison

    I'm guessing the Judge won't be moved, particularly after Trump's direct attacks on her...

    Is the United States of America or Honduras?
     
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  15. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Some Republican senators said on Wednesday that President Trump shouldn't weigh in on pending sentences after he publicly criticized an initial recommendation from the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the case of Roger Stone.

    Murkowski, Collins, and Graham better watch their mouths, or they'll get fired.
     
  16. Desk trauma

    Desk trauma Chronic political homeless Supporter

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    one can only hope.
     
  17. Larnievc

    Larnievc Well-Known Member

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    It’s such a bad idea for anyone who believes that the end of the world is part of some divine destiny to wield any political power.

    How can they be trusted?
     
  18. Kentonio

    Kentonio Well-Known Member

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    Oh gosh, is Collins ‘concerned’? :rolleyes:
     
  19. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Roger Stone retrial request denied as judge rejects claims jury forewoman was biased

    The assumption that the forewoman could not fairly consider the evidence against Stone based on her views about Trump “is not supported by any facts or data and it is contrary to controlling legal precedent,” Jackson wrote in an 81-page opinion. The judge called Stone’s motion “a tower of indignation” with “little of substance holding it up.”

    Jackson pointed out that during jury selection it was she, the judge, who pressed the potential juror about her ability to remain impartial, and that Stone’s defense attorney said he had no questions.

    “The defendant has not shown that the juror lied; nor has he shown that the supposedly disqualifying evidence could not have been found through the exercise of due diligence at the time the jury was selected,” Jackson wrote in her decision, which the defense is expected to appeal.


     
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  20. cow451

    cow451 The Most Interesting Poster in the Forum Supporter

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    Pardon me, boy.... is that the Rattanooga Choo-Choo?
     
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