Roger Stone calls Black radio host a racial slur on air

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Roger Stone calls Black radio host a racial slur on air
Roger Stone, friend and former campaign adviser to President Donald Trump, called a Black radio host a racial slur on air Saturday while the two debated Stone's federal conviction.

Stone's sentence was commuted by Trump on July 10, just days before he was scheduled to surrender for 40 months of incarceration after he was convicted of witness tampering and making false statements to Congress as it investigated Russia's influence in the 2016 election.
 

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When Roger Stone was a young man that racial slur he is accused of saying was considered the lone respectful way to refer to a black person.

Yes I've seen the word used in that neutral way, even by James Baldwin in some of his writing, and by Che Guevara. But it's the sentence - 'I don't feel like arguing with this _____ '. It's suggestive of a sentiment based on the other person's ethnicity. I doubt if Stone is an out and out hood wearing racist but a slip like that indicates an old school attitude towards skin colour.
 
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Yes I've seen the word used in that neutral way, even by James Baldwin in some of his writing, and by Che Guevara. But it's the sentence - 'I don't feel like arguing with this _____ '. It's suggestive of a sentiment based in the other person's ethnicity. I doubt if Stone is an out and out hood wearing racist but a slip like that indicates an old school attitude towards skin colour.
I can't imagine him says, "I don't feel like arguing with this white guy."
 
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Yes I've seen the word used in that neutral way, even by James Baldwin in some of his writing, and by Che Guevara. But it's the sentence - 'I don't feel like arguing with this _____ '. It's suggestive of a sentiment based in the other person's ethnicity. I doubt if Stone is an out and out hood wearing racist but a slip like that indicates an old school attitude towards skin colour.

On that I concur. It is probably representative of an undeserved attitude of superiority on Stone's part. From the little I have heard the man speak he seems to be full of himself and more than a bit self deluded. I just thought I would point out the fact that the nature of the connotations of the word has changed dramatically from when Stone was young. Even from the time when I was young. In those times calling a person black would have been considered a racial slur and using the word Stone used would have been considered showing proper respect if not for the tone he used. I think we place too much emphasis upon the words and not enough emphasis on attitude. In this case Stone's attitude is IMO the thing he should be most chastised for not just the word he used.
 
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I can't imagine him says, "I don't feel like arguing with this white guy."

"White guy" is not considered a slur. How about "I don't feel like arguing with this WASP!"
 
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"White guy" is not considered a slur. How about "I don't feel like arguing with this WASP!"
That was my point, white guy is not a slur and he probably wouldn't have said it to just identify the person he didn't want to argue with.
Using the word he used probably wasn't used just to identify the person he didn't want to argue with as being a black person.
I think your post #9 speaks directly to the problem.
 
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Using the antiquated term "negro" doesn't necessarily suggest racism, but when you call a person you're currently talking to "this negro" it speaks for itself. It's like calling a black man "boy"; there is nothing wrong with the word "boy", but there certainly is when you speak in a condescending way to a black male.
 
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Using the antiquated term "negro" doesn't necessarily suggest racism, but when you call a person you're currently talking to "this negro" it speaks for itself. It's like calling a black man "boy"; there is nothing wrong with the word "boy", but there certainly is when you speak in a condescending way to a black male.

Mostly agree with this. the only slight difference is that "boy" was never considered a respectful thing to call a black male while at one time to refer to a black person using the word in question was the progressive and respectful thing to do. However, in this case there is no confusion about Stone's attitude toward the person he was referring to.
 
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When Roger Stone was a young man that racial slur he is accused of saying was considered the lone respectful way to refer to a black person.

As recently as ten years ago it was used by the US Census...

...and the United Negro College Fund still exists.
 
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As recently as ten years ago it was used by the US Census...

...and the United Negro College Fund still exists.
It's all about context, and Stone is plainly in the wrong.
 
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When Roger Stone was a young man that racial slur he is accused of saying was considered the lone respectful way to refer to a black person.
That’s true if ‘back then’ you/he were referring to an actual person but in the context of his sentence usage it’s synonymous with slave.
 
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As recently as ten years ago it was used by the US Census...

...and the United Negro College Fund still exists.
"This negro" was on the US Census? And why does he scoff at having to discuss a topic with a negro? What does his race have to do with their discussion?
 
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This is what I imagine a post from the President would look like if he were a member of CF.
I would expect he get would get banned from most online forums. He would violate their basic civility rules.
 
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When Roger Stone was a young man that racial slur he is accused of saying was considered the lone respectful way to refer to a black person.
It was never respectful to use it that way. Besides, everyone knows better know--he certainly does. No excuses for racism.
 
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