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Featured Futurist Only Revelations: Seals, Trumpets, Vials of Wrath

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by mark kennedy, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. Adstar

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    I wrote this one a few years ago about this issue.. I believe the most likley cause of the signs given in the Book of Revelation is a Meteor Strike at sea which will cause vast destruction to 1/3rd of the earths surface.. Anyway below is my right up.. Sorry it is a bit long but if you are interested i am sure you will take the time to read it..


    The Meteor:
    Revelation 8
    8 Then the second angel sounded: And something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood. 9And a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

    John called it like a great mountain burning with fire. John knew what a mountain was so if it was a mountain then John would have described it as such. But John says it was like a great burning mountain. A perfect first century man description of a mayor meteor strike on earth landing somewhere in the sea.

    So we move onto the very next verse:

    Revelation 8
    11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter.

    So the Burning Mountain that is being cast into the sea is described as a star. Of course this clearly reveals that the origin of the burning mountain is from the sky from space. John would have known "falling stars" and His linking of the two is His way to add more revelation to the message.

    We are told by researchers that a mayor Meteor impact on earth would cause a massive explosion upon earths surface to the extent of causing large amounts of debris being ejected into the upper atmosphere and even into lower earth orbit. Much of this debris once again enters back into the planets atmosphere causing a massive meteorite shower. Lets go back to the Book of Revelation and read the signs where John reveals uncanny similar scene.

    Revelation 6
    13And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

    To the eyes of a first century man the massive meteor debris shower would indeed look like all the stars where falling from the sky. Note John describes the meteorite shower and likens it to all the figs falling together at one time off a fig tree late in the season when it is suddenly shaken violently. Also He describes the sky receding like a scroll. From the ground the massive amounts of debris from the impact zone would quickly fill the sky and the sky would recede into darkness like a scroll being rolled out above the world blocking out the sun.


    Researchers say that an incoming debris meteorite shower will have the effect of causing a great build up of heat and massive flash fires over vast areas, in cases of a massive meteor strike they claim that all the worlds surface vegetation would be burnt up. But John indicates that only a third of earth will suffer this kind of destruction. So with that in mind lets continue with the next verse from the book of Revelation

    Revelation 8
    7The first angel sounded: And hail and fire followed, mingled with blood, and they were thrown to the earth. And a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up.

    So a third of all trees and grass are burned up by this shower of fire. I will now take the liberty of adding a clearer supporting verse that is in the Gospels:

    Luke 17
    29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

    Jesus states that upon His second coming the world will experience a rain for fire and brimstone aligning well with what John gives in the book of Revelation.

    Researchers say that a much fine dust in the earths atmosphere would cause the blocking out of the sunlight. And in very large impacts total darkness. But John describes a one third darkening of the sky, He writes:

    Revelation 8
    12Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.

    And again He describes more effects of this darkening.

    Revelation 6
    12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.

    One of the reasons given by researchers for the moon appearing to have a red colour is:

    Quote taken from A Red Moon - NOT a Sign of the Apocalypse! - Universe Today

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    The second reason for a red moon is if there’s some kind of particle in the air. A forest fire or volcanic eruption can fill the air with tiny particles that partially obscure light from the Sun and Moon. Once again, these particles tend to scatter blue and green light away, while permitting red light to pass through more easily. When you see a red moon, high up in the sky, it’s probably because there’s a large amount of dust in the air.



    Now i will backtrack a bit to other signs revealed by John in the above scriptures.

    Revelation 6
    13And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

    Researchers say that a Massive shockwave would travel not only through the air but also through the crust of the earth. This shockwave would be experienced as a major earthquake. In fact John describes this earthquake as the biggest earthquake mankind will ever experience, He states:

    Revelation 16
    18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth.

    I will again take the liberty of going back to the OT to a verse describing the happenings at the time of the Messiah Jesus return:

    Zechariah 14
    4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.

    The book of Revelation has multiple verse speaking of earthquakes. It may be that the aftershock earthquakes will be very great also after such a massive earthquake caused by the Meteor impact.

    Ok i will once again backtrack to a verse already given that gives another sign. One that also aligns with the latest conclusion of researchers on the effects of a meteor impact upon earth.

    Revelation 8
    11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter.

    Here John states that the burning mountain/falling star would cause the Waters to be poisoned and many men would die from the water. One of the effects of a meteor strike given by researchers is acid rain over large areas causing massive poisoning. This poisoning they claim will be caused by nitric and nitrous acids. The link below is the source of this information quoted below.

    Quote sourced from:

    Solar System Fluff



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    The heat from the shock wave of the entering asteroid and reprocessing of the air close to the impact produces nitric and nitrous acids over the next few months to one year. The chemical reaction chain is:

    1. N2 + O2 ‚> NO (molecular nitrogen combined with molecular oxygen produces nitrogen monoxide)
    2. 2NO + O2 ‚> 2NO2 (two nitrogen monoxide molecules combined with one oxygen molecule produces two nitrogen dioxide molecules)
    3. NO2 is converted to nitric and nitrous acids when it is mixed with water.

    These are really nasty acids. They will wash out of the air when it rains---a worldwide deluge of acid rain with damaging effects:



    So these acids will be produced in large quantities and will wash out of the atmosphere when it rains causing massive contamination of water supplies. and many men will die because they have no other alternative but to drink the contaminated water.


    Researchers also state that the longer term effects of a meteor strike is a rapid "greenhouse effect" heating, some also speculate that the ozone layer may suffer damage during a meteor collision causing more UV radiation hitting the surface. John also gives a sign that is in alignment with these theories.

    Revelation 16
    9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.

    So there you have it. The parallels are striking between what researchers have stated about the effects of a meteor strike on the earth surface and what John describes in the Book of Revelation. From this i can only conclude that a Meteor will be the main instrument bringing about many of the signs revealed in the Book of Revelation. I hope you have been blessed by this post. I intent to add more posts closely related to this post. I even suspect i may know the actual meteor by name.



    All Praise The Ancient Of Days
     
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  3. keras

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    What you are presenting, is events during the Great Tribulation, the Seven Trumpets and Seven Bowls, during the final 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns.
    What I posted was about the Sixth Seal, which; unless you want to incur the curse of Revelation 22:19, happens before the Great Tribulation. It is the great 'thipilis', the disaster of the Sixth Seal worldwide terrible Day of the Lord event, that is referred to in Revelation 7:14. All those faithful Christian people who called to their Lord on the Day of His wrath, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, are seen in Jerusalem praising God and waving palm branches.

    This is the next thing to happen, that we should be aware of and prepared for. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11
     
  4. mark kennedy

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    What I'm trying to present is an exposition of the text, as written. Assuming a 7 year tribulation the seals start the tribulation which puts them at the beginning. The 7th trumpet is sounded in close associating with the ending of the ministry of the Two Witnesses almost exactly 3 1/2 years into the tribulation. After the vials of wrath are poured out there is a description of the beast, Babylon, the Church and then the thousand year reign of Christ. The book is divided evenly between three core judgments at the heart of the emphasis, the seals (ch. 1-7), the trumpets (ch. 8-14), the vials of wrath (ch. 15-21), the eternal state (ch. 22) being the stand alone final word on the matter.

    This position is irrefutable given a literal understanding of the text of the Revelation. Not what it means but what it says.

    Revelation 6 are the seals being opened, the first seal is opened and the Antichrist pops out, there is just no way this happens at the half way mark. The book has a clear narrative, the little horn uproots three other kingdoms, during his campaign Babylon starts killing off her old rivals. This is the 'thilipsis' (G1722 θλῖψις thlipsis blb), the persecution of the church that results in the 'tribulation' wrath of God. The same word is used to speak of both the persecution of the church (Matt. 13:21; Matt. 24:9; Matt. 24:21), and the wrath that follows:

    Immediately after the tribulation G2347 of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (Matt. 24:29)
    Most often 'tribulation' or 'thilipsis' is used to speak of persecution, affliction or wrath. It is used 4 times to speak of the persecution of the church (Rev. 1:9, 2:9, 2:10, 2:22), then once of the multitude in heaven, dressed in white robes, who suffered the persecution 'thilipsis' of the Antichrist:

    Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Rev. 7:13,14)
    These are the same people mentioned at the opening of the fifth seal. It isn't until the twentieth chapter that they are raised:

    Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. (Rev. 20:4-6, bolded mine)
    There is no mention of the resurrection until this chapter, except for the two witnesses. Now I have absolutely no problem with my dispensational brethren with regards to their views on a pretribulation rapture except with regards to the exposition of the requisite texts.

    My central point is that 'thilipsis' is a direct reference to persecution. The persecution of the saints, Jew and gentile occurs throughout the tribulation period.

    Yes, but let us take this in it's natural and literary context, Paul tells the Thessalonians that they should not be...:

    ...easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter presuming to be from us and alleging that the day of the Lord has already come. Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.…(2 Thess. 2:2-4)
    The day of the Lord is the day God destroys his enemies, it's the day Christ returns. Before that happens the man of lawlessness is revealed, this starts with the opening of the seals and reaches it's fullest revelation at the abomination that causes desolation, which is well known to be in the middle of the tribulation.

    This is not a debate on the differences between covenant and dispensational theology. The text is sufficiently ambiquise with regards to the actual time of the resurrection. My intention here is a straightforward exposition of the text and the seals and the trumpets running concurrently runs contrary to the clear narrative of Revelations.

    I believe we can have differences along these line but can and must, agree to disagree but resolve to love, as C.S. Lovett put it so elegantly. I have no axe to grind and certainly am not here to be contentious or divisive. At the same time I know what the text says and will not compromise the narrative to accommodate theological premises, not taken from a literal reading.

    Grace and peace,
    Mark
     
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  5. keras

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    Neither will I.
    But your statement that the first Seal is the Anti-Christ, is just your idea. Actually, we know from Zechariah 1:8-10 & 6:1-8, that the four horsemen were released in ancient times. Proved by the Fifth Seal, who are all the martyrs since Abel. Matthew 23:35
    I certainly don't agree with the concurrent theory and the next event we can expect will be the Sixth Seal. After that, the Seventh Seal is a time gap and the GT of the trumpets and Bowls happen during the last 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns. This sequence is how Revelation states it and is supported by many other prophesies.
    Have you read all the descriptions of the great and terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath? Obviously not, because you would see that that Day cannot be the same as the Day of Jesus glorious Return. Amos 8:18-20 for example.
    Jesus will destroy the attacking armies when He Returns, but the Sixth Seal is years before that and is when He gets His garments splashed with blood. Isaiah 63:1-6 His garments are blood stained BEFORE He Returns. Revelation 19:13
     
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  6. mark kennedy

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    I really don't think so given the context, the next is war, then famine, then pestilence. That's four horsemen and four seals and then the fifth seal is opened and the martyrs beneath the altar are revealed. Given the immediate context, an exegetical understanding of the term and theme of 'thilipsis' being persecution, it sure sounds like the rise of the Antichrist to me.

    Hang on, this is what is said about that prophecy:

    Then said I, What come these to do? And he spake, saying, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it. (Zech. 1:21)
    Zechariah was a priest and prophet during the time of Nehemiah and Ezra. It’s pretty obvious from the historic context he is talking about the rage of the gentiles that caused so much trouble for Israel. I don’t see the connection to Revelations.

    In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses; And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses. (Zech. 6:2,3)​

    I just don't see the connection, on it's face this is red, black, white and grisled and bay. Sure there are four and they involve horses but that's about it.

    I'm not sure what you are getting at here, the seals are at the beginning, trumpets in the middle and vials poured out toward the end. I'm not making this up, it's right there in the text.

    Have I ever read Amos? Amos 8 is 14 verses long. I can only assume you mean this:

    Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it? (Amos 5:18-20)​

    Yes, the Day of the Lord is a Day of Darkness. With the pouring out of the fifth vial there is utter darkness, presumably continuing until the return of Christ and the Day of the Lord:

    Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom became full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues because of the pain. They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and did not repent of their deeds. (Rev. 16:10,11)​

    I don't see it, Jesus garments are stained in the final battle with the kings of the east and the Armies of the Antichrist. During the vials of wrath the throne of the beast is struck, leaving his kingdom in utter darkness, the fifth bowl. Then there is the valley of Armageddon where the Armies of the Antichrist and the kings of the east go at it, the sixth bowl. Then there is a great earthquake and this is followed by the return of Christ who destroys them there, having the Antichrist and the False Prophet thrown into the lake of fire bodily. Apparently the other kings, the other horns were not in that battle so they last a little while longer before they are destroyed.

    Grace and peace,
    Mark
     
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  7. keras

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    Hasn't the world had enough wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters to fulfil the first four Seals?
    This is the interpretation of most Bible scholars; those Seals have plainly been doing their thing in the world and as the Fifth Seal is also plainly open, that clinches it.
    Sorry, yes: Amos 5:18-20. That and many other prophesies tell of a Day that simply doesn't match with what will happen at Jesus' Return. A Day when the Lord will not be seen: Psalms 18:11, Habakkuk 3:4, + and how He sends fire from heaven: Psalms 11:4-6, Amos 1
    I thought you agreed that the Sixth Seal does not happen at the Return? That is the Lord's Day of wrath, when He destroys the attackers of Israel. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12
    Isaiah 63:1-6...why are Your clothes blood stained? I trampled the nations and their blood splashed My garments....
    No mention of this in Revelation. Either way, the fact is Jesus will Return wearing a robe that shows His previous punishment of the nations.
    I suggest you rethink your last paragraph; you have Jesus fighting at Armageddon, then Returning?
     
  8. mark kennedy

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    No, that's not the point. When has all the water been turned to blood? We are not talking about a normal war, or one that we have ever had before.

    I'm talking about the narrative, not most Bible scholars who are mostly liberal btw. We are talking about something that with the opening of the fourth seal a fourth of the earth is involved in nothing like we have ever seen.

    I thought you understood that the sixth seal is not the Day of the Lord. I was more then clear, the sixth seal is the beginning of sorrows.

    Been thinking it and rethinking it for a long time. Jesus returns at Armageddon, then after winning the day, the day of the Lord, he walks in the east gate of Jerusalem. His enemies destroyed, at his return, he reigns in Jerusalem for a thousand years. Nothing to rethink, it's not all that complicated.
     
  9. Adstar

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    My post was a response to the thread in general as a futurist i will giving the thoughts i have about the end times events given in the Book of Revelation.. I was not making a specific response to your points.. But just a response in general..

    As for Jerusalem in the Last days The Book of Revelation declares Jerusalem will be as Sodom and Egypt in those days.. So it will not be a place filled with followers of God.. The following verse tell of the two final witnesses who will be killed in Jerusalem and 3 days later reasurected..

    Revelation 11: KJV
    6 "These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. {7} And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. {8} And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. {9} And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. {10} And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth."
     
  10. keras

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    Jerusalem at the time of the two Witnesses, will have been conquered by the Anti-Christ leader of the One World Govt. Zechariah 14:1-2 He will break the peace treaty with new Israel at the mid point and will just come in and take over God's undefended people. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:7 and Daniel 11:29-45 tells the story.
     
  11. keras

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    Try to see the first Five Seals, the Day of the Lord's wrath and the Great Tribulation as separate sequential things. As they are Written. Jumbling them together just makes for confusion.
     
  12. mark kennedy

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    I'm not confused, the first five seals are the beginning of sorrows, not the Day of the Lord. The 'great tribulation' is an expression only used once in revelations and it's a reference to the persecution believers went through during the rise of the Antichrist. Dispensationalists are found of some scenario where they are not chronological, I find no basis for this approach.
     
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    Conquered or invited in as their long hoped for hero savior who will defeat the muslims and save them from their enemies? The people of Jerusalem will rejoice at the death of the two witnesses..

    Just as in the OT as the Hebrews in the desert who when they came to the border of the promised land rejected the report of the two scouts who gave the good report of the promised land Joshua the son of Nun, and Caleb the son of Jephunneh.. The Hebrews responded by grabbing stones to stone them to death but God intervened and in the end the generation that rebelled against Gods will ended up perishing in the wilderness and after 40 years the Children who where innocent at the time of the rebellion where allowed to enter into the promised land ..

    This is a shadow of what is to come in the end times i believe.. Because God will preserve a remnant of the Hebrews the 144,000 innocents of the 12 trines of Israel who will inherit the Millennial Kingdom of God on earth
     
  14. mark kennedy

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    It sounds like a general reference to this passage:

    And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Rev. 11:7,8)
    The city had witnessed many plagues and manifestations for 3 1/2 years, in the wake Israel repents. One wonders what took them so long.

    Along with the children of Israel that survive the wrath of the Antichrist, perhaps only a third (Zech. 13:8)
     
  15. keras

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    Read Zechariah 14:1-2 again. It describes a conquering. By the armies of the Anti-Christ leader of the OWG. THEY rejoice when the 2 Witnesses are killed.
    Understand that the holy Land will be occupied by every faithful Christian by then. We see them in Revelation 5:9-10 and Revelation 7:9. Daniel 11:30-35 describes this time and how the Christians are split into 2 groups. They are again shown in Revelation 12:6-17.

    The Islam and every other false religion will be no more after the Lord's Day of wrath. Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 9:25-26, +
     
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    Fulfilled in 70 AD by the Roman army.

    Zechariah 14:1-2
    1 Behold, a day of Jehovah cometh, when thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

    2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

    /-A- day of Jehovah/ is not The Day of the Lord.. referred in Revelation 19 when all the armies will be destroyed...
     
  17. keras

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    Not fulfilled in 70 or 135 AD, because half of the people remain. No Jew remained after 135 AD.
    Zechariah 14:3 goes on to describe Jesus' Return, 3 1/2 years later, when He destroys the Anti-Christ's army and chains Satan up.
    This prophecy describes end time events, to think otherwise is just confusion.
     
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    You are right it is end time events ..but where do you see the 3 1/2 years later ?

    1- there is no armies surrounding Israel at the 6th seal...

    2- The only time the Armies of the World will be gathered in Israel [Megiddo] is mentioned in Revelation 16:14-17. Thus [logically]we must expect that Jerusalem will be surrounded as soon that the first armies will arrive...

    Revelation 16:14-17
    14 for they are spirits of demons, working signs; which go forth unto the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the battle of the great day of God, the Almighty.

    15 (Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walked naked, and they see his shame.)

    16 And they gathered them together into the place which is called in Hebrew Har-magedon.

    17 And the seventh poured out his bowl upon the air; and there came forth a great voice out of the temple, from the throne, saying, It is done:
     
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    Actually Israel is now surrounded by armed forces, targeted by missiles, and infested by terrorists within its own borders. But the Sixth Seal will be triggered by the preparations to launch a nuke missile from Iran. Jeremiah 49:35-37, Psalms 11:4-6, Amos 1, Ezekiel 30:1-5, +, says how the Lord will destroy them all.
    Daniel 9:27 tells us it is at the half way mark of one 'week' [7 years] of the seventy 'weeks', [490 years] that the AC breaks the treaty with new Israel.
    Armageddon will be basically a reinforcement of the AC's army of occupation. They will be drawn in by the demonic spirits, as they know Jesus will Return very soon. Revelation 16:13-14
     
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    The OT Book of Daniel in chapter 11 it talks about two evil warring Kings .. The King of the North and the King of the South. Daniel calls both these kings evil kings. I believe this series of wars shall happen before the return of Jesus.. I believe the king of the south will be seen by muslims to be their Mardi and they will see the king of the North as being their version oour anti-christ.. The book of Daniel sasy that the jewish people will rejoice because the king of the north will eventually destroy the king of the south and cause a great slaughter of the people of the middle east.

    This slaughter is also mentioned in Ezekial 32 verse 17 to the end of the chapter..
     
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