Revelation 20:1-8, Why Is Satan Currently Bound & Sealed?

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Revelation 20:3 states satan is sealed for one specific purpose "Deceiving The Nations"

Revelation 20:8 clearly shows "Deceive The Nations" as satan deceives the nations to the final battle of Armageddon.

This same "Deceive The Nations" is seen in Revelation 16:12-17 as "Devils In Deception" go forth from the dragon/satan, beast, false prophet, to gather the same nations to battle as seen in Revelation 20:8-9

Satan is loosed at the end of the future tribulation, to perform this deception, as you clearly see satan, beast, and false prophet present.

Many falsely believe and teach this event takes place after a 1000 year kingdom, 100% false.

The non-literal 1000 years is taking place now in the Lords spiritual realm, if a future tribulation saint dies one week before the return of Jesus Christ, he enters this reign.

Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8 are the exact same event of "Deceiving The Nations" in parallel teachings.

Its the false teaching that the book of Revelation is in chronilogical order, that keeps many from this biblical truth.

Satan is bound and sealed ftom "One Specific Purpose" that is "Deceiving The Nations" To The Final Battle.

Can Satan currently perform this "Deceiving The Nations" as seen in Revelation 16:12-17?

100% No, The Sixth Vial Must Be Poured, as this angels vial has him bound and sealed.

Many falsely teach Satan is bound from performing all evil, while a utopian 1000 year kingdom takes place? 100% False.

At no place in Revelation 20:1-8 does it state all evil is bound, a false teaching.

Once again Satan is currently bound and sealed from one specific item, "Deceiving The Nations" to the final battle seen in Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9

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Revelation 20:3 states satan is sealed for one specific purpose "Deceiving The Nations"

Revelation 20:8 clearly shows "Deceive The Nations" as satan deceives the nations to the final battle of Armageddon.

Actually...

God is not talking about Satan deceive the political nations like the America or France here. What many fail to understand is that nations and Gentiles are both the "exact same words" with the exact same meaning in Scripture! God is talking about the "non-Jewish" people. For example, the heathen (nonbelieving) people who did not know the God of Israel or part of commonwealth of Israel.

Look, IN GOD'S EYES, we all were spiritually the Gentiles (heathen) before we were born again. Once we are born again, we are now seen by God as the spiritually Jews in Christ. The point is at the cross, Jesus Christ had to bound Satan for the sake of the nations (spiritually gentiles) so that we could get saved. We were once Gentiles but now are a part commonwealth of Israel as the spiritual Jews!

The millennial kingdom is not talking about keeping Satan from deceiving a political nations or country nor that there will be world peace (absence of evil) for a thousand year. That is not what God is talking about. The millennial kingdom is FOR the Elect who have been freed or spoiled from Satan's bondage, but first, he has to be bound by Christ in order to do that!

Mar 3:27
[27] No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

The house is Satan's world full of unsaved people (Gentiles/Nations). Christ did bind Satan at the cross in order to spoil the world with Gospel so that Gentiles could be saved and be part of covenant Israel as spiritually Jews in Christ! This is the whole purpose of the millennial kingdom since the Cross!

Now, according to Revelation 7 and 11 when God has finished sealing all of His people through the testimony of Two Witnesses (Church), Satan will come out of the bottomless pit and "deceive the nations" once again. IN other words, there will be no longer for man to be saved into the Kingdom of God BECAUSE God has finished sealing all of Covenant Israel! The testimony for salvation is over. That is why there is a short period of Great Tribulation FOR THE ELECT in the church as the church fell into apostasy and desolation. This is when Satan will bring heathen people, specifically, professed Christian with the spirit of antichrist or spirit of disobedience INTO God's New Testament congregation, the church, and brought her into desolation. Just like Israel of Old as an example!

God did not talk about Satan gathering all political nations together with their armies and march down to the Middle Eastern nation of Israel for final war. This is not going to happen. People are looking at wrong Nations. Wrong Israel. Wrong place. And all at the same time not realized that their apostate churches are under the judgment which is called "the battle of Armageddon". It is a spiritual war!
 
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God is not talking about Satan deceive the political nations like the America or France here. What many fail to understand is that nations and Gentiles are both the "exact same words" with the exact same meaning in Scripture! God is talking about the "non-Jewish" people. For example, the heathen (nonbelieving) people who did not know the God of Israel or part of commonwealth of Israel.

Look, IN GOD'S EYES, we all were spiritually the Gentiles (heathen) before we were born again. Once we are born again, we are now seen by God as the spiritually Jews in Christ. The point is at the cross, Jesus Christ had to bound Satan for the sake of the nations (spiritually gentiles) so that we could get saved. We were once Gentiles but now are a part commonwealth of Israel as the spiritual Jews!

The millennial kingdom is not talking about keeping Satan from deceiving a political nations or country nor that there will be world peace (absence of evil) for a thousand year. That is not what God is talking about. The millennial kingdom is FOR the Elect who have been freed or spoiled from Satan's bondage, but first, he has to be bound by Christ in order to do that!

Mar 3:27
[27] No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

The house is Satan's world full of unsaved people (Gentiles/Nations). Christ did bind Satan at the cross in order to spoil the world with Gospel so that Gentiles could be saved and be part of covenant Israel as spiritually Jews in Christ! This is the whole purpose of the millennial kingdom since the Cross!

Now, according to Revelation 7 and 11 when God has finished sealing all of His people through the testimony of Two Witnesses (Church), Satan will come out of the bottomless pit and "deceive the nations" once again. IN other words, there will be no longer for man to be saved into the Kingdom of God BECAUSE God has finished sealing all of Covenant Israel! The testimony for salvation is over. That is why there is a short period of Great Tribulation FOR THE ELECT in the church as the church fell into apostasy and desolation. This is when Satan will bring heathen people, specifically, professed Christian with the spirit of antichrist or spirit of disobedience INTO God's New Testament congregation, the church, and brought her into desolation. Just like Israel of Old as an example!

God did not talk about Satan gathering all political nations together with their armies and march down to the Middle Eastern nation of Israel for final war. This is not going to happen. People are looking at wrong Nations. Wrong Israel. Wrong place. And all at the same time not realized that their apostate churches are under the judgment which is called "the battle of Armageddon". It is a spiritual war!
I don't see or believe your symbolic representation of the nations being "Political Nations"

The same would apply to the battle of Armageddon being in the church.

I can't disagree much of what claims to be the church is apostate, and under judgment

However their will be a future literal battle of Armageddon in Israel, and all nations will be invited.

Thanks for your response.
 
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Once again Satan is currently bound and sealed from one specific item, "Deceiving The Nations" to the final battle seen in Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9

What makes you think Satan is currently bound and sealed? Satan's bad fruit is very visible.

Harlotry has been an ongoing theme in the Bible. (Ezekiel 16)(Ezekiel 23)(Revelations 17) The Nations have been drinking a Harlot's wine. False idols in the form of false worldly ideologies have become institutionalized to some degree in various Western Nations that served God.

God is first and last. God was man's first love. He will be man's last love; every knee shall bow and every tongue confess. God is love. Christian societies value virgin brides. How many brides are virgins since the 1960's and the sexual revolution in Christian Nations? It is very important.

"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light"(1 Peter 2:9)


Someone that finds God in a big may feel tied to God's rules for his priestly class. Levites could only marry a virgin. A man that does not marry a virgin may be blind and deaf.
 
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"Man on Firepost: 72240494 said:
What makes you think Satan is currently bound and sealed? Satan's bad fruit is very visible.

Harlotry has been an ongoing theme in the Bible. (Ezekiel 16)(Ezekiel 23)(Revelations 17) The Nations have been drinking a Harlot's wine. False idols in the form of false worldly ideologies have become institutionalized to some degree in various Western Nations that served God.

God is first and last. God was man's first love. He will be man's last love; every knee shall bow and every tongue confess. God is love. Christian societies value virgin brides. How many brides are virgins since the 1960's and the sexual revolution in Christian Nations? It is very important.

"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light"(1 Peter 2:9)


Someone that finds God in a big may feel tied to God's rules for his priestly class. Levites could only marry a virgin. A man that does not marry a virgin may be blind and deaf.
It appears you didn't read the opinion, I agree Satan isn't bound from present evil.

Satan is bound from performing Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9

That is deceiving the nations to the final battle of Armageddon.
 
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It appears you didn't read the opinion, I agree Satan isn't bound from present evil.

Satan is bound from performing Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9

That is deceiving the nations to the final battle of Armageddon.
Why do the nations assemble their armies at Armageddon? What is your rationale that Armageddon could happen at any time if Satan were allowed to deceive the nations to do so - whenever he decides to?

What you are not getting is what triggers Armageddon, the gathering of the armies there. Satan has no control over what triggers Armageddon.

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21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


When was Satan bound in chains and cast into the bottomless pit?
 
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Why do the nations assemble their armies at Armageddon? What is your rationale that Armageddon could happen at any time if Satan were allowed to deceive the nations to do so - whenever he decides to?

What you are not getting is what triggers Armageddon, the gathering of the armies there. Satan has no control over what triggers Armageddon.

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21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


When was Satan bound in chains and cast into the bottomless pit?
No place does the OP state Satan can deceive the nations to battle at any time, just the opposite.

The OP states Satan is bound and sealed from performing this by the angels sixth vial as seen in Revelation 16:12-17

Is what triggers Armageddon and the nations being gathered to battle are "The Devils" that go forth from the mouths of the dragon, beast, and false prophet, unto the kings of the earth, as seen in Revelation 16:12-17

"When Was Satan Bound"?

Whenever God conceived the "6th Vial" and "Angel" in Revelation 16:12-17 that is when Satan was bound, and he will remain bound from "Deceiving The Nations To Battle" until that "6th Vial" is poured out, possibly a very long time ago, seeing God is the Alpha & Omega
 
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Satan is bound from performing Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9

Nothing new happens under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 1:9-11)

My understanding, at this time, is for Satan to be locked up, and God's Kingdom and the 1000 years reign to happen, something significant occurs.

Man may end up forgetting and/or falling into complacency. God releases Satan again.
 
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Nothing new happens under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 1:9-11)

My understanding, at this time, is for Satan to be locked up, and God's Kingdom and the 1000 years reign to happen, something significant occurs.

Man may end up forgetting and/or falling into complacency. God releases Satan again.
You dont stand alone.

There will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth.

Jesus returns in the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom, as he clearly taught in Matthew 25:31-46
 
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I don't see or believe your symbolic representation of the nations being "Political Nations"

I did not say the symbolic representation of the nations is the political nations. You need to read my post again.

The same would apply to the battle of Armageddon being in the church.

The symbolic of the nations/Gentiles are the heathens while Israel symbolically the saved people. God was not talking about a physical nation of Isreal or the political nations of the world.

I can't disagree much of what claims to be the church is apostate, and under judgment

The battle of Armageddon is taking place in the congregation of Israel which is Holy Place in this side of the cross (not national Isreal) where false prophets and Christs (heathens) sent by Satan to deceive those without the seal of God (professed Christians)... again, WITHIN the congregation. The battle of Armageddon will NOT be observed between the world and national Israel as most people believe.

Satan was bound at the Cross and being restrained from frustrating God's congregation for a symbolic thousand years (fullness of whatever in view) until God has finished bringing all of His Elect into His church, THEN and ONLY THEN, Satan will be loosened to bring Gentiles into the external church (professed christians who do not have relationship with Christ). Consider Revelation 11:1-2 carefully:

Rev 11:1-2
[1] And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
[2] But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

See, the word Gentiles in verse 2 is same as nations. The the holy city is the congregaiton of Israel, the church. God is talking about putting the professed christians of the congregation under judgment by allowing Satan and this armies of false prophets and christs to deceive them! Why? Becuase they are unfaithful congregation who have not been yet sealed by God after he finished sealing his people (Revelation 7:1-4)

Rev 9:3-6
[3] And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
[4] And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
[5] And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
[6] And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

The smoke locusts are symbolically the false prophets and christs coming with spirit of antichrist. Their torment is as of scorpion which means the false gospel/doctrines. They will deceive professed christians in the church to believe a lie when they seek death or desire to die IN CHRIST but cannot find it. There is no more salvation possible at this point. This is the battle of Armageddon the judgment of the unfaithful congregation.

However their will be a future literal battle of Armageddon in Israel, and all nations will be invited.

NOWHERE in Scripture, even Revelation does not support this!

You need to show me the chapter and verse (don't forget the context).
 
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No place does the OP state Satan can deceive the nations to battle at any time, just the opposite.
...because you are saying he is bound in chains and has been cast into the bottomless pit for the purpose of not deceiving the nations to get them to go to Armageddon.

I want to know what is your rationale that Satan can cause Armageddon any time he wants - if he weren't in the bottomless pit as you claim?

Also you did not answer who the nations are gathered together at Armageddon to fight. Why the nations gather their armies at Armageddon?
 
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Revelation 20:3 states satan is sealed for one specific purpose "Deceiving The Nations"

Revelation 20:3King James Version (KJV)
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Satan is deceiving the nations as we speak, but he is currently being limited. Yes, when Lord Jesus returns, satan is forcefully restrained to no more deceive the nations for a thousand years,("till the thousand years be fullfilled"). That is how long he will be bound before he is loosed again to deceive the nations. We do not know how long the "little season" will last, however we do know that it will last longer than a day because seasons last more than a day.
 
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Revelation 20:3King James Version (KJV)
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Satan is deceiving the nations as we speak, but he is currently being limited. Yes, when Lord Jesus returns, satan is forcefully restrained to no more deceive the nations for a thousand years,("till the thousand years be fullfilled"). That is how long he will be bound before he is loosed again to deceive the nations. We do not know how long the "little season" will last, however we do know that it will last longer than a day because seasons last more than a day.
Satan is "Currently" bound from deceiving the nations to battle.

What does Revelation 20:8 clearly tell you, he is released and "Deceives The Nations" to battle.

What does Revelation 16:12-17 show you, "Devils" from Dragon/Satan, Beast, False Prophet, go forth to the kings of the world to gather them to battle.

Revelation 20:8-9 and Revelation 16:12-17

Same Battle, Same Satan, Same Nations

Parallel Teachings Of The Same Event.

Do you believe Satan is going out two separate times in deception, to gather world nations to battle? 100% No!

Once again, this event of "Deceiving The Nations" takes place one time, at the end of the tribulation, when the Dragon, beast, and false prophet are present.

There will be no 1000 year kingdom on this earth, Jesus returns to the final battle of Armageddon in the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdon, Just as Jesus Christ taught in Matthew 25:31-46

You have been taught Jesus returns to start a 1000 year kingdom on this earth?

100% Error

Matthew 25:31-46 Teaches?

Verses 31-32 Jesus returns with the angels, the nations are gathered before the throne for judgment.

Verse 34 The eternal kingdom presented to the righteous.

Verse 41 The wicked are judged to the eternal lake of fire.

Verse 46 The righteous obtain "ETERNAL LIFE" and enter the "ETERNAL KINGDOM" in verse 34

Eternity Has Started!

There will be no 1000 year kingdom on earth at the return of Jesus Christ, its the ETERNAL KINGDOM

Jesus Christ Is Lord

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...because you are saying he is bound in chains and has been cast into the bottomless pit for the purpose of not deceiving the nations to get them to go to Armageddon.

I want to know what is your rationale that Satan can cause Armageddon any time he wants - if he weren't in the bottomless pit as you claim?

Also you did not answer who the nations are gathered together at Armageddon to fight. Why the nations gather their armies at Armageddon?
Is Satan bound and sealed in Revelation 20:8-9 & Revelation 16:12-17?

100% No

Whats going on in both passages of scripture?

Satan is gathering the worlds nations/kings to battle.

This gathering of the nations/kings is the same event in both passages of scripture.

Do you believe Satan "Deceives The Nations" to a world battle on two separate events?

You contine to claim the OP states Armageddon can take place at any time?

100% False Claim!

When the "6th Vial" is poured out by the Angel, this event takes place as seen in Revelation 16:12-17, it will be God's future timing of this event.
 
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This gathering of the nations/kings is the same event in both passages of scripture.

Do you believe Satan "Deceives The Nations" to a world battle on two separate events?
Satan is not at his initiative deceiving the nations in Revelation 16, he is convincing them to assemble their armies to try and stop Jesus from executing judgement on them. Satan has zero choice in the matter of when the nations, the evil men of the world, are threatened with the wrath of the lamb in Revelation 6, the sixth seal.

Satan is reacting in self defense. His kingdom Mystery Babylon the Great is about to be given it's death blow.

The armies of the world gather to fight Jesus. It is in the text of Revelation 19.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

It is also in Pslams 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.



day 1.........day 1185 AOD, then count forward 1290 days to day 2475..... Jesus appears in heaven on day 2475.

day 1.....................................day 2475 Jesus appears in heaven.......armies assemble at Armageddon.......day 2520 Jesus descends destroys armies, end of 70th week.

day1 first seal.......unknown day TOD, second seal...........third seal......fourth seal......fifth seal..... day 2475 sixth seal, Jesus appears in heaven........armies assemble at Armageddon..........seventh vial...... day 2520 Jesus descends destroy armies, end of 70th week.

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At the end of the 1000 years Satan deceives the nations into attacking Jerusalem and Israel, his last brief puff of insanity.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Satan will convince the nations of the world to rebel from living under the laws of God, which will have constrained wickedness during the thousand year reign. To deceive them into thinking they will be successful by destroying Jerusalem and Israel.
 
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It appears you didn't read the opinion, I agree Satan isn't bound from present evil.

Satan is bound from performing Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9

That is deceiving the nations to the final battle of Armageddon.

Why can't you just admit why you have it meaning this? That way in your mind, this explains how satan can be both bound and loosed at the same time, though to some of the rest of us, that's illogical. Obviously he has to be loosed and not bound in order to deceive anyone, in order to be walking about as a roaring lion, devouring those that he can, so on and so on.

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Actually though, look what the text actually states----that he should deceive the nations no more. Obviously that means before he gets bound he was deceiving the nations, and when he gets bound, he is no longer deceiving the nations. Do you not see that part that says 'no more'? no and more were apparently in the original manuscripts, thus not anything the translators added. What exactly does no more mean to you in that sentence? I realize you don't care much for what you say is my human reasoning of things, but without the ability to reason through some of these things, what is the point in trying to understand any of these things to begin with? 'no more' then are the keywords in this particular portion of that sentence in that verse, and that it tells us this binding prevents satan from doing what he was doing before he is bound, and that is, he was deceiving the nations.
 
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Satan is "Currently" bound from deceiving the nations to battle.
No he is not.
1 Peter 5: 8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Now either Peter does not know what he is talking about or you are wrong. I trust what Peter says. And looking at the world in chaos tell me Peter is right.
 
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Satan is not at his initiative deceiving the nations in Revelation 16, he is convincing them to assemble their armies to try and stop Jesus from executing judgement on them. Satan has zero choice in the matter of when the nations, the evil men of the world, are threatened with the wrath of the lamb in Revelation 6, the sixth seal.

Satan is reacting in self defense. His kingdom Mystery Babylon the Great is about to be given it's death blow.

The armies of the world gather to fight Jesus. It is in the text of Revelation 19.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

It is also in Pslams 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.



day 1.........day 1185 AOD, then count forward 1290 days to day 2475..... Jesus appears in heaven on day 2475.

day 1.....................................day 2475 Jesus appears in heaven.......armies assemble at Armageddon.......day 2520 Jesus descends destroys armies, end of 70th week.

day1 first seal.......unknown day TOD, second seal...........third seal......fourth seal......fifth seal..... day 2475 sixth seal, Jesus appears in heaven........armies assemble at Armageddon..........seventh vial...... day 2520 Jesus descends destroy armies, end of 70th week.

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At the end of the 1000 years Satan deceives the nations into attacking Jerusalem and Israel, his last brief puff of insanity.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Satan will convince the nations of the world to rebel from living under the laws of God, which will have constrained wickedness during the thousand year reign. To deceive them into thinking they will be successful by destroying Jerusalem and Israel.
Revelation 16:12-17

Verse 14 clearly teaches that the "Devils" go forth from Satan, Beast, False Prophet, to the kings of the whole world, to gather the to the "Final Battle" "The Great Day Of The Lord God Almighty.

Verse 15 states "Behold I Come As A Thief"

Verse 16 States the battle is Armageddon, valley of Megiddo in Israel.

Verse 17 states "It Is Done"!

You believe there are two separate battles, where the nations will be gathered by satan that will be in Israel?

You don't believe verse 15 describes the "Second Coming" is taking place?

You don't believe verse 17 "It Is Done" means exactly what is written?

You don't believe the book of Revelation is written in parallel teaching of the same events?

Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9 Same Exact Event, In Parallel Teachings.

The World's King's/Nations are gathered to Israel for battle?
 
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No he is not.
1 Peter 5: 8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Now either Peter does not know what he is talking about or you are wrong. I trust what Peter says. And looking at the world in chaos tell me Peter is right.
Your scripture presented does not show satan "Deceiving The Nations To Battle" as seen in Revelation 16:12-17 & Revelation 20:8-9
 
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Why can't you just admit why you have it meaning this? That way in your mind, this explains how satan can be both bound and loosed at the same time, though to some of the rest of us, that's illogical. Obviously he has to be loosed and not bound in order to deceive anyone, in order to be walking about as a roaring lion, devouring those that he can, so on and so on.

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Actually though, look what the text actually states----that he should deceive the nations no more. Obviously that means before he gets bound he was deceiving the nations, and when he gets bound, he is no longer deceiving the nations. Do you not see that part that says 'no more'? no and more were apparently in the original manuscripts, thus not anything the translators added. What exactly does no more mean to you in that sentence? I realize you don't care much for what you say is my human reasoning of things, but without the ability to reason through some of these things, what is the point in trying to understand any of these things to begin with? 'no more' then are the keywords in this particular portion of that sentence in that verse, and that it tells us this binding prevents satan from doing what he was doing before he is bound, and that is, he was deceiving the nations.
 
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