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Revelation 16:12-14

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Snor Snor, Mar 2, 2002.

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  1. Snor Snor

    Snor Snor Servant of Jesus Christ

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    What is your opinion on what these verses mean? Here, I'll type it out for you; it's in the NIV translation, and it's after the sexith bowl judgement is poured.

    Revelation 16:12-14 - The sixth angel poured out his bowl o nthe great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings of the East. Then I saw three evil spitirs that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. They are spirits of demonds performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

    There were some things, like they could be aliens, and another is that they want to gather up a war for the "enemy aliens" (Which is Jesus Christ, decending from heaven with the saints), and to do battle with them.

    What do you think? :D

    God bless! :)
     
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  2. rollinTHUNDER

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    Hello Snor Snor,
    I believe that this prophecy is well into the second 3 1/2 years into the tribulation. I believe that Turkey has control of the dam, and they would also have the control of the rivers flow. They will stop the flow, which will enable the kings of the east to come against Israel, with a 200,000,000 man army. This will most definately be China, and maybe even some other countries from that region. One note of importance: China can man that many soldiers now, without the assistance from any other nation. I don't expect to see this invasion. These kings from the east will be the last ones to arrive in the war of Armageddon.
     
  3. placesofrefuge

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    :eek: :rolleyes: :( You and I agree a lot Rollin' T. but sometimes we don't and this is one of those times.)It doesn't directly answer the question on the original post, either, but does clarify what I see as an error. You come by it honestly, through Hal Lindsey, etc., but it's not scriptural. The only place you see the 200 million released are at the sixth trumpet judgment, beginning at Rev. 9:14, and they are not Chinese, or even human! They are demonic hoardes set aside to kill one third of humans, and if you look at the description of them, they can't be humans, and they are set aside to be released for just this purpose at this time. Also, you notice that the ones left that they do not kill, that have the mark of the beast and are worshipping Antichrist at that time still won't repent. THAT does not fit the battle of Armageddon, because Jesus will DESTROY them all at that time! Now, moving forward to the battle of Armageddon, which you are talking about, there is mentioned neither 200 million nor Chinese. Rev. 16:12 does say the river Euphrates is dried up for this gathering, and mentions the kings of the East, but v. 14 specifies kngs of the earth and of the whole world. So there is no specifed number, and they are from everywhere, gathered to take God's real estate, Jerusalem again, and the "Battle" is simply us coming back behind Jesus and watching Him win, when they have the audacity to turn on Jesus himself, and think they can fight Him! The unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, whom we know to be the devil, and and they are described here as coming out of the mouths also of the false prophet and the Antichrist, hence there are three of these "froggy" unclean spirits. Since the Antichrist will be indwelled by the devil, we know that these three will be present at the gathering at Megiddo. We also get to see what Jesus does to the three of THEM, at the "Battle" of Armageddon, or the Second Coming of Jesus Christ as King of Kings. Hallelujah! So my point here is DON'T get the 200 million or "Chinese" mixed up with the verse here, they don't pertain! But that's O.K., "ROLLIN THUNDER", I'd rather have THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU, because it makes much more sense and clears up a lot more prophetically than the old tired "mark of the beast is a day of the week or symbolic" garbage, or the "these chapters and verses have already happened" rhetoric. Those posts sure waste a lot of valuable prophetic time, and curb a lot of growth!! So I'll banter back and forth with YOU, over THAT, any day! :holy: :p ;) :sick: :eek: ------placesofrefuge
     
  4. Willis Deal

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    have you considered that the trumpets and bowls are happening at about the same time? Compare the first trumpet to the first bowl, second trumpet to second bowl, etc. They obviously aren't exactly the same but it would be easy enough for the first trumpet to be a prelude to first bowl, second trumpet a prelude to second bowl, etc, with the earthquakes etc being the final trumpet and bowl being in harmony.
     
  5. rollinTHUNDER

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    I think that it is quite possible that some of these judgments overlap. But who knows, this is too tough to argue. But I think they will know more, as time goes by. I am just glad that we won't have to be here. Those demons being released will be going thru walls like they do today, but it will be worse then. I think that now, we can't see them, but in those days they will be seen. What a horrible day that will be.
     
  6. ZiSunka

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    98% of the water in the Euphrates falls on Turkey. This seems to be speaking either of a dam that holds back the water (one such major dam is currently being engineered despite opposition and hostilities with Syria and neighboring countries) or a major drought that prevents water from flowing through the watershed and into the river. The stoppage of river flow creates a way for the eastern kings to travel. They either travel in the dry river bed or ford across the dry bed.

    The frog-demons are an echo of the miracles that happened in Egypt, aren't they. I think satan is finally figuring out how to mimick that miraculous plague and is showing everyone the he is god by making frog-demons do miracles in public. They are meant to show the anti-christ's power, to show that he is the "true god" and that everyone whould follow him or suffer the consequences.
     
  7. sarkazma

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    rollin thunder, what do you mean youll be glad to miss out on these end days... what a great day it will be to witness these things unfold, personally I cant wait to watch satan get his *** kicked :D . also, its possible the end times are upon us and that you and i will be here when they occur.

    Let the persecution come... we have Jesus :clap:
     
  8. edjones

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    12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
    14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    When God delivered Israel from Egypt, He dried up the Red Sea to let them out. Here He dries up part of the Euphrates to allow the armies of the kings of the east to meet with the armies of the nations of the world at Armageddon.
     
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