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Revelation 11:1, 2; the Sanctuary, Altar, Worshippers, Court and City

Discussion in 'Christian Scriptures' started by LittleLambofJesus, May 18, 2018.

  1. Court of the Priests outside the Sanctuary (inner Court)

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  2. Court of Gentiles (outer court)

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  3. I have never thought about it

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  1. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    I find these verses particularly interesting.
    Here we see the Sanctuary, Altar and those worshiping in it.
    However, John is told not to measure the Court outside of it, which is where the water laver and broze altar of sacrifice was, along with the Priests that performed their sacrificial duties.
    I would like to study on this as I became very interested in it during my translation of Revelation some years ago. I will also be putting up the Greek texts and where certain words are used in the rest of the NT. The Sanctuary and Court fascinates me the most.

    I made the poll just for info to see how others view the Court in Reve 11:2.
    Any views on this would be appreciated and thanks to those who do post and/or vote. :wave:

    Revelation 11:
    1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary of the God and the Altar and those worshiping in it
    2 and the Court/f without of the Sanctuary, be thou Casting-Out! outside,
    and thou mayest not be measuring her, that she was given to the Nations,
    and the City/f, the holy-one, they shall be trampling forty and two months


    Studies In The Scriptures - Tabernacle Shadows - Chapter 1

    The Camp--The Court--The Tabernacle--The Brazen Altar--The Laver-- The Table--The Lampstand--The Golden Altar--The Mercy Seat and Ark--The Gate--The First Veil--The Second Veil--The Significance of These and Their Antitypes.

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  2. drjean

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    I voted the outer court is the gentile area. The treading of the holy city by gentiles is said to last forty-two months. This corresponds to half of the final week of the 70 weeks of Daniel (Dan. Dan. 9:24-27)

    I believe it is the latter part of the tribulation...when the antichrist and (moslems?) "gentiles" commit the abomination of desolation and thus resulting in Yeshua haMeshiach to come blow them away and begin the millennium.
     
  3. LittleLambofJesus

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    Revelation 11:
    1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod [and the angel stood] saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary/m of the God and the Altar/n and those/m worshipping in it/him.

    There is a variance in this verse.
    The Scriverner 1894 T-R adds "and the angel stood", which is not used in any of the other Greek texts, [including the Stephens 1550 T-R].
    It appears there are a few Bible versions this appears in, including the KJV.
    You can view them at this link:

    Revelation 11:1 Biblehub

    KJV) And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

    Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

    Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn
    egeirai kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw
    Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw kai o aggelos eisthkei legwn
    egeirai kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw
    Byzantine Majority
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn
    egeirai kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw

    Alexandrian
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn
    egeire kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw
    Hort and Westcott
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn
    egeire kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw

     
  4. LittleLambofJesus

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    Revelation 11:
    1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod [and the angel stood] saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary/naon<3485> of the God and the Altar/n and those/m worshipping in it/him.

    The greek word #3485 is interesting and perhaps a deeper study of that is warranted.

    Genesis 1:1 (KJV)
    Strong's Number G3485 matches the Greek ναός (naos), which occurs 46 times in 40 verse

    When looking up where this word was used in the NT, I came across a verse in John 2:20 where it the Jews said it took 46 yrs to build #3485, the same amount of times that word is used in the NT!

    John 2:20
    The Judeans therefore said, 'Forty and six years was this Sanctuary/naoV<3485> building, and wilt Thou in three days raise it up?'

    eipon oun oi ioudaioi tessarakonta kai ex etesin wkodomhqh o naoV outoV kai su en trisin hmeraiV egereiV auton

    STRONGS NT 3485: ναός
    ναός, ναοῦ, ὁ (ναίω to dwell), the Sept. for הֵיכָל, used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice (or sanctuary) itself, consisting of the Holy place and the Holy of holies (in classical Greek used of the sanctuary or cell of a temple, where the image of the god was placed, called also δόμος, σηκός, which is to be distinguished from τό ἱερόν, the whole temple, the entire consecrated enclosure; this distinction is observed also in the Bible; see ἱερόν, p. 299{a}): Matthew 23:16f, 35 27:40; Mark 14:58; Mark 15:29; John 2:19; Revelation 11:2; nor need Matthew 27:5 be regarded as an exception, provided we suppose that Judas in his desperation entered the Holy place, which no one but the priests was allowed to........
    3485 naós (from naiō, "to dwell") – properly, a sanctuary (divine dwelling-place); a temple (sacred abode), the place of divine manifestation. 3485 (naós) refers to the sanctuary (the Jewish Temple proper), i.e. with just its two inner compartments (rooms). These consisted of:



      • used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice (or sanctuary) itself, consisting of the Holy place and the Holy of Holies (in classical Greek it is used of the sanctuary or cell of the temple, where the image of the god was placed which is distinguished from the whole enclosure)
      • any heathen temple or shrine
      • metaph. the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in Christ
     
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  5. LittleLambofJesus

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    STRONGS NT 3485: ναός
    ναός, ναοῦ, ὁ (ναίω to dwell), the Sept. for הֵיכָל, used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice (or sanctuary) itself, Matthew 23:16f, 35 27:40; Mark 14:58; Mark 15:29; John 2:19; Revelation 11:2; nor need Matthew 27:5 be regarded as an exception, provided we suppose that Judas in his desperation entered the Holy place, which no one but the priests was allowed to........

    Upon looking at some commentaries on the Sanctuary, Matt 27:5 was brought up concerning Judas throwing the silver into #3485. There are different forms of #3485 and because of this particular verse, I will delve more into those.

    Matthew 27:5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

    Matt 27:5 and having cast down the silverlings in the sanctuary/naw/naon<3485>, he departed,......

    Verse 5. - He cast down the pieces of silver in the temple (ἐν τᾷ ναῷ, in the sanctuary, or, as good manuscripts read, εἰς τὸν ναόν, into the sanctuary). The priests were in the priests' court (which would be included in the term ναός), separated by a stone partition from the court of the Gentiles. Into the latter area Judas had pressed; and, hurrying to the wall of division, he flung the cursed shekels with all his force into the inner place, as if to rescind the iniquitous contract and to cast away its pollution...............

    (5) He cast down the pieces of silver in the temple.--The Greek word for "Temple" is that which specially denotes (as in Matthew 23:16; Matthew 26:61; John 2:19), not the whole building, but the "sanctuary," which only the priests could enter. They had stood, it would seem, talking with Judas before the veil or curtain which screened it from the outer court, and he hurled or flung it into the Holy Place.

    5. And he cast down the pieces of silver—The sarcastic, diabolical reply which he had got, in place of the sympathy which perhaps he expected, would deepen his remorse into an agony.

    in the temple—the temple proper, commonly called "the sanctuary," or "the holy place," into which only the priests might enter. How is this to be explained? Perhaps he flung the money in after them. But thus were fulfilled the words of the prophet—"I cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord" (Zec 11:13).

    Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
    kai riyaV ta arguria en tw naw anecwrhsen kai apelqwn aphgxato
    Hort and Westcott
    kai riyaV ta arguria eiV ton naon anecwrhsen kai apelqwn aphgxato
     
  6. Micah888

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    Revelation 11 has one of the strongest confirmations that there will be a future third temple in Jerusalem which may rightly be called "Antichrist's Temple", even though it is called "the temple of God".

    REVELATION 11 (KJB)
    [1] And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

    [2] But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.


    Any temple in Jerusalem since the time of Solomon would be called "the temple of God". But the fact that John is writing after the crucifixion of Christ and the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD means that this future temple will be regarded by unbelieving Jews as "the temple of God", but in reality it will become the temple of the Antichrist.

    It is in this future temple that the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Beast of Revelation 13, and the Antichrist [who is also "the prince that shall come" and the "Little Horn" (among several other titles)] will set up the Abomination of Desolation and then sit in this temple calling himself God.

    The court here is NOT symbolic. It is the court of the Gentiles. The inner court was for the priests, but the outer court was for all people including Gentiles. This was the designation in Herod's temple. John was told not to measure it since it was given to the Gentiles.

    The key to understanding that this is the Antichrist's temple is "forty and two months". This is the EXACT amount of time which God gives to Satan and the Beast to take total and absolute control of the inhabitants of the earth, while the Holy Spirit is "taken out of the way".

    And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Rev 13:5).

    This time period is also indicated at "time, times, and half a time" (or "the "dividing of times" and 1260 days (which is 3 1/2 years or 42 months (using a 30 day prophetic month).
     
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    Thank you for your view.
    The Greek word #833 is used only 12 times in the NT and only in the Gospels of Matt, Mark, Luke and John and 1 time in Revelation.
    Most of those in the Gospels concern the Court of the High Priest, where Jesus was taken for trial:

    Matthew 26:3
    Then were gathered together the Chief-priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, to the Court/aulhn <833> the Chief-priest who was called Caiaphas
    Mark 14:54
    And Peter followed him afar off, even into the Court/aulhn<833> of the high priest: and he sat with the servants, and warmed himself at the fire.
    Luke 22:55
    And when they had kindled a fire in the midst of the Court/aulhV<833> and were set down together, Peter sat down among them.
    John 18:15
    And Simon Peter followed Jesus, and so did another disciple: that disciple was known unto the high priest, and went in with Jesus into the Court/aulhn<833> of the high priest.
    Revelation 11:2
    and the Court/Fold/aulhn<833>, the *without/in of the Sanctuary, be Casting-Out! out-side and no her thou should be measuring,

    833. aule ow-lay' from the same as 109; a yard (as open to the wind); by implication, a mansion:--court, (sheep-)fold, hall, palace.
    Strong's Number G833 matches the Greek αὐλή (aulē), which occurs 12 times in 12 verses

    STRONGS NT 833: αὐλή
    αὐλή, αὐλῆς, ἡ (ἄω to blow; hence) properly, a place open to the air (διαπνεόμενος τόπος αὐλή λέγεται, Athen. 5, 15, p. 189 b.);
    1. among the Greeks in Homers time an uncovered space around the house, enclosed by a wall, in which the stables stood (Homer, Odyssey 9, 185; Iliad 4, 433); hence, among the Orientals that roofless enclosure in the open country in which flocks were herded at night, a sheepfold: John 10:1, 16.
    2. the uncovered court-yard of the house, Hebrew חָצֵר, the Sept. αὐλή, Vulg.atrium. In the O. T. particularly of the courts of the tabernacle and of the temple at Jerusalem; so in the N. T. once: Revelation 11:2 (τήν αὐλήν τήν ἔξωθεν (Rec.st ἔσωθεν) τοῦ ναοῦ). The dwellings of the higher classes usually had two αὐλαί, one exterior, between the door and the street, called also προαύλιον (which see); the other interior, surrounded by the buildings of the dwelling itself. The latter is mentioned Matthew 26:69 (where ἔξω is opposed to the room in which the judges were sitting); Mark 14:66; Luke 22:55. Cf. Winers RWB under the word Häuser; (B. D. American edition under the word ; BB. DD. under the word ).
    3. the house itself a palace: Matthew 26:3, 58; Mark 14:54; Mark 15:16; Luke 11:21; John 18:15, and so very often in Greek writings from Homer, Odyssey 4, 74 down (cf. Eustathius 1483, 39 τῷ τῆς αὐλῆς ὀνόματι τά δώματα δηλοῖ, Suidas col. 652 c. αὐλή. ἡ τοῦ βασιλέως οἰκία. Yet this sense is denied to the N. T. by Meyer et al.; see Meyer on Matthew, the passage cited).

    1) among the Greeks in Homer's time, an uncovered space around
    the house, enclosed by a wall, in which the stables stood,
    hence among the Orientals that roofless enclosure by a wall,
    in the open country in which the flocks were herded at night,
    a sheepfold
    2) the uncovered court-yard of the house. In the O.T.
    particularly of the courts of the tabernacle and of the temple
    in Jerusalem. The dwellings of the higher classes usually had
    two, one exterior, between the door and the street; the other
    interior, surrounded by the buildings of the dwelling itself.
    The latter is mentioned Mat. 26:69.
    3) the house itself, a palace

    https://www.bible-history.com/jewishtemple/JEWISH_TEMPLEThe_Court_of_the_Gentiles.htm


    The Temple precincts was divided into 4 courts:
    1. The Court of the Priests
    2. The Court of Israel
    3. The Court of the Women
    4. The Court of the Gentiles
    https://www.bible-history.com/links...econd+Temple&subcat_name=Court+of+the+Priests
    Second Temple: Court of the Priests
    Common Israelite men could approach God as far as the Court of Israel, but they could not enter the Court of the Priests.

    The Chambers Around the Court of the Priests by Edersheim The account which Jewish tradition gives of these gates and chambers around the Court of the Priests is somewhat conflicting, perhaps because the same chambers and gates may have borne different names. It may, however, be thus summarised. Entering the Great Court by the Nicanor Gate, there was at the right hand the Chamber of Phinehas with its 96 receptacles for priests' vestments, and at the left the place where the high-priest's daily meat-offering was prepared, and where every morning before daybreak all the ministering priests met, after their inspection of the Temple and before being told off to duty. Along the southern side of the court were the Water-gate, through which at the Feast of Tabernacles the pitcher with water was brought from the Pool of Siloam, with a chamber above it, called Abtinas, where the priests kept guard at night; then the Gate of the Firstlings, through which the firstlings fit to be offered were brought; and the Wood-gate, through which the altar-wood was carried. Alongside these gates were Gazith, the hall of square polished stones, where the Sanhedrim sat; the chamber Golah, for the water apparatus which emptied and filled the laver; and the wood-chamber. Above and beyond it were the apartments of the high-priest and the council-chamber of the 'honourable councillors,' or priestly council for affairs strictly connected with the Temple. On the northern side of the Priests' Court were the gate Nitzutz (Spark Gate), with a guard-chamber above for the priests, the Gate of Sacrifices, and the Gate of the Beth-Moked.


    The Court of the Gentiles
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    The entire Temple compound was considered holy, but it became increasingly more holy as one entered farther in, from east to west. King Herod had enclosed the outer court with colonnades and it was referred to as the Court of the Gentiles because the "gentiles" (non-Jews) were permitted to enter the Temple area. They could walk within in it but they were forbidden to go any further than the outer court. They were excluded from entering into any of the inner courts, and warning signs in Greek and Latin were placed that gave warning that the penalty for such trespass was death. The Romans permitted the Jewish authorities to carry out the death penalty for this offence, even if the offender were a Roman citizen. It was for this alleged crime that Paul was attacked and nearly beaten to death by an angry crowd during his last visit to Jerusalem (Acts 21:27-32).

    It was into these outer courts that Jesus came and drove out the money-changers who had been accumulating wealth by using the Temple as a place of merchandise.
     
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    Thank you for your post and your vote.
    "Leave out" is a poor translation, rather it be "CAST OUT".
    [I believe it is the inner court of the corrupt murderous Priests that is being cast out, and given to the Gentiles, as John is also told the measure those inside the Sanctuary]
    Let's look at the Greek. The exact same form of #1544 is also used in Galation 4:30 concerning OC Jerusalem in 70ad.

    Galatian 4:
    25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present-day Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children
    30 But what/any is saying the Scripture 'be Casting-Out!/ekbale <1544> (5628) the maid-servant and the son of her, for not no shall be tenanting/inheriting the son of the maid-servant with the son of the freeone.

    Reve 11:2
    and the court, outside of the sanctuary, be Casting-Out!/ekbale <1544> (5628) out-side, and thou mayest not be measuring her, that she was given to the nations,
    and the city/ the holy they shall be trampling forty and two months.


    1544. ekballo ek-bal'-lo from 1537 and 906; to eject (literally or figuratively):--bring forth, cast (forth, out), drive (out), expel, leave, pluck (pull, take, thrust) out, put forth (out), send away (forth, out).
    Strong's Number G1544 matches the Greek ἐκβάλλω (ekballō), which occurs 96 times in 76 verses

    (2) But the court . . .--Translate, And the court which is outside the Temple cast out, and measure not it; because it was given to the nations (Gentiles): and they shall tread down the holy city forty and two months. The outer court--meaning, perhaps, all that lies outside the Temple itself--is to be omitted. A strong word is used; the words "leave out" are far too weak. He is not only not to measure it, but he is, in a sort, to pass it over, as though reckoned profane. The reason of this is that it was given to the Gentiles. Our Lord had said that Jerusalem should be trodden down of the Gentiles (Luke 21:24); the sacred seer catches the thought and the deeper significance...........

    (2) ]leave out] Hardly a strong enough expression: the original is, “cast out outside.” The sense must be, “leave out for profanation.” This excludes the hypothesis (otherwise not without plausibility) that the measurement of the Temple is for destruction, not for preservation: see 2 Kings 21:13; Lamentations 2:8 :—and for the destruction being regarded as the work of the prophet, cf. Ezekiel 43:3.
     
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    Revelation 11:
    1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary of the God and the Altar and those worshiping/proskunountaV<4352> in it.

    Who are the "those" symbolizing that are also being measured in Reve 11:1? It they are in the Sanctuary, it seems they would have to be NC Priests? This deserves deeper study.
    The Greek word #4352 is used 65 times.

    4352. proskuneo pros-koo-neh'-o from 4314 and a probable derivative of 2965 (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand); to fawn or crouch to, i.e. (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore):--worship.
    Strong's Number G4352 matches the Greek προσκυνέω (proskyneō), which occurs 65 times in 54 verses

    Out of those 65 times, the exact word form of #4352 is only used 5 times.
    Coincidentally, 2 of those times are none other than in John's Gospel.
    Also, the greek word #4353 used for "worshippers" is used only 1 time in the NT, John 4:23.

    John 4:
    23 but, there cometh an hour, and it now is, when the true worshippers/proskunhtai<4353> will worship/proskunhsousin<4252> the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also doth seek such to worship/proskunountaV<4352> him;
    24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping/proskunountaV<4352> Him, in spirit and truth it doth behove to worship/proskunein.'

    Reve 11:1
    And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary of the God and the Altar and those worshiping/proskunountaV<4352> in it.
    Revelation 16:2
    and the first did go away, and did pour out his vial upon the land, and there came a sore -- bad and grievous -- to men, those having the mark of the beast, and those bowing to his image.
    And the first departed and poured out his bowl into the earth, and an evil and grievous sore came upon the men having the mark of the beast and those worshiping/proskunountaV<4352>i ts image
    .
    Reve 19:20
    And the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet, the one having done the signs before him, by which he deceived those having received the mark of the beast and those worshiping/proskunountaV<4352> its image.

    STRONGS NT 4352: προσκυνέω

    προσκυνέω, προσκύνω; imperfect προσεκύνουν; future προσκυνήσω; 1 aorist προσεκύνησα; from Aeschylus and Herodotus down; the Sept. very often for הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה (to prostrate oneself); properly, to kiss the hand to (toward) one, in token of reverence: Herodotus 1, 134; (cf. K. F. Hermann, Gottesdienstl. Alterthümer d. Griech. § 21; especially Hoelemann, Die Biblical Gestalt. d. Anbetung in his 'Bibelstudien' i., 106ff); hence, among the Orientals, especially the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an expression of profound reverence ("to make a 'salam'"); Latinveneror (Nepos, Conon. 3, 3),adoro (Pliny, h. n. 28, 5, 25; Suetonius, Vitell. 2); hence, in the N. T. by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication. It is used a. of homage shown to men of superior rank: absolutely, Matthew 20:20 (the Jewish high-priests are spoken of in Josephus, b. j. 4, 5, 2 as προσκυνούμενοι); πεσών ἐπί τούς πόδας.......

    STRONGS NT 4353: προσκυνητής
    προσκυνητής, προσκυνητου, ὁ (προσκυνέω), a worshipper: John 4:23. (Inscriptions; (ecclesiastical and) Byzantine writings.)
     
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    Revel 11:1
    And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary of the God and the Altar/qusiasthrion<2379> and those worshiping in it.

    I believe the Altar shown in Reve 11:1 is the Golden Altar of Incense located inside the Holy Place of the Tabaernacle/Sanctuary.

    2379. thusiasterion from a derivative of 2378; a place of sacrifice, i.e. an altar (special or genitive case, literal or figurative):--altar.
    Strong's Number G2379 matches the Greek θυσιαστήριον (thysiastērion), which occurs 23 times in 21 verses

    Of the 23 times it is used in the NT, the exact form of #2379 is used 6 times, 2 of those in Revelation:

    Reve 11:1
    and the Altar/qusiasthrion<2379> and those worshiping in it.


    Reve 8:3 and another messenger did come, and he stood at the altar/qusiasthrion<2379>, having a golden censer, and there was given to him much perfume,
    that he may give it to the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar that is before the throne,

    Luke 1 is interesting, as it actually show a Priest, the husband of Elizabeth and father of John the Baptist, preparing the incense for the Golden Altar inside the Tabernacle:

    Luke 1:
    8 And it came to pass, in his acting as priest in the order of his course before God,
    9 according to the custom of the priesthood, his lot was to make perfume, having gone into the Sanctuary of the Lord,
    10 and all the multitude of the people were praying without, at the hour of the perfume
    11 And there appeared to him a messenger of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar/qusiasthriou<2379> of the perfume/qumiamatoV<2368> ,
    12and Zacharias, having seen, was troubled, and fear fell on him;
    qusiasthriou tou qumiamatoV

    The Golden Altar of Incense (Ex 30:1-10)

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    The Golden Altar of Incense was 2 cubits tall.
    It was 1 cubit square with a crown of gold
    around the top and it had 4 golden horns


    It was the Golden Altar of Incense which was straight ahead, before the veil, this third piece of furniture in the Holy Place on which the holy incense was burned.

    Made from acacia wood overlaid with pure gold it stood higher than any other article of furniture in the holy place, 2 cubits (3 feet) tall. It was one cubit square and it had around the top a crown of gold. It had four golden horns just as the bronze altar in the courtyard. Lower down on each side there were golden rings to insert the poles for carrying.

    Exod 30:1-10 "You shall make an altar to burn incense on; you shall make it of acacia wood. A cubit shall be its length and a cubit its width-- it shall be square-- and two cubits shall be its height. Its horns shall be of one piece with it. And you shall overlay its top, its sides all around, and its horns with pure gold; and you shall make for it a molding of gold all around. Two gold rings you shall make for it, under the molding on both its sides. You shall place them on its two sides, and they will be holders for the poles with which to bear it. You shall make the poles of acacia wood, and overlay them with gold. And you shall put it before the veil that is before the ark of the Testimony, before the mercy seat that is over the Testimony, where I will meet with you. Aaron shall burn on it sweet incense every morning; when he tends the lamps, he shall burn incense on it. And when Aaron lights the lamps at twilight, he shall burn incense on it, a perpetual incense before the LORD throughout your generations. You shall not offer strange incense on it, or a burnt offering, or a grain offering; nor shall you pour a drink offering on it. And Aaron shall make atonement upon its horns once a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonement; once a year he shall make atonement upon it throughout your generations. It is most holy to the LORD."
    - It had 4 horns of gold, one with it, a horn on each corner. (4-camps, e.Judah, s.Ruben, w.Ephraim, n.Dan, all Gods people)


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    'The Bronze Altar' (Ex 27:1-5)


    When the common Israelite approached the tabernacle with his sacrifice and passed through that entrance gate he found that between him and the tabernacle structure stood an altar with a priest waiting beside it. The altar was square in shape (foursquare). Its length and breadth were exactly the same as the height of the white linen fence around the court 5 cubits (7 1/2 feet). Its height was 3 cubits (4 1/2 feet) and it was made of acacia wood overlaid with bronze with horns at each corner.
    Exod 27:1-5 "You shall make an altar of acacia wood, five cubits long and five cubits wide-- the altar shall be square-- and its height shall be three cubits. You shall make its horns on its four corners; its horns shall be of one piece with it. And you shall overlay it with bronze. Also you shall make its pans to receive its ashes, and its shovels and its basins and its forks and its firepans; you shall make all its utensils of bronze. You shall make a grate for it, a network of bronze; and on the network you shall make four bronze rings at its four corners. You shall put it under the rim of the altar beneath, that the network may be midway up the altar.

    This was the altar on which the sacrifices were made which Lev.1:9 describes as a sweet savour to the Lord. This was where the blood was shed and the sinner was pardoned. No matter how good a person was, without the shedding of blood there was no forgiveness. No matter how good a person was, without the shedding of blood there was no forgiveness................



     
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    Revelation 11:
    1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "be rousing!/egeirai1453 and measure!...........

    Let's look at the word #1453. The word means to waken, rouse as if one is still in shock at the visions John if having, almost like in a trance?

    1453.
    egeiro eg-i'-ro probably akin to the base of 58 (through the idea of collecting one's faculties); to waken (transitively or intransitively), i.e. rouse (literally, from sleep, from sitting or lying, from disease, from death; or figuratively, from obscurity, inactivity, ruins, nonexistence):--awake, lift (up), raise (again, up), rear up, (a-)rise (again, up), stand, take up.
    Genesis 1:1 (KJV)
    Strong's Number G1453 matches the Greek ἐγείρω (egeirō), which occurs 161 times in 135 verses

    Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn egeirai
    kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw
    Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw [kai o aggelos eisthkei] legwn egeirai
    kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw
    Byzantine Majority
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn egeirai
    kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw

    Alexandrian
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn egeire
    kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw

    Hort and Westcott
    kai edoqh moi kalamoV omoioV rabdw legwn egeire
    kai metrhson ton naon tou qeou kai to qusiasthrion kai touV proskunountaV en autw


    The exact form of #1453 occurs 13 times. 1 times in Matt, 4 times in Mark, 4 times in Luke, 1 time Ephes 5:14 and 1 time in Revelation. I will put the verse for Ephes 5:14 up:

    Ephes 5:14
    wherefore he saith, 'Arouse/egeirai1453 thyself, thou who art sleeping,
    and arise out of the dead, and the Christ shall shine upon thee
    .'

    That verse is similar to Isaiah 26:19
    KJV)
    Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake/<6974 quwts and sing, ye that dwell in dust:
    for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead
    .

    6974 quwts koots a primitive root (identical with 6972 through the idea of abruptness in starting up from sleep (Compare 3364)); to awake (literally or figuratively):--arise, (be) (a-)wake, watch.
    Strong's Number H6974 matches the Hebrew קוּץ (quwts),which occurs 22 times in 21 verses
     
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    Revelation 11:
    1 And was given to me a reed/kalamoV<2563> saying "be rousing! and measure!...........

    Reed is an interesting word and I never really looked closely at it until I started translating Revelation.
    The first time it is used in the Bible is:

    NKJV) 1 King 14:15
    “For the LORD will strike Israel, as a reed is shaken in the water. He will uproot Israel from this good land which He gave to their fathers, and will scatter them beyond the River,[fn]
    because they have made their wooden images,[fn] provoking the LORD to anger.

    Strong's Number G2563 matches the Greek κάλαμος (kalamos),
    which occurs 12 times in 12 verses

    Matt 27:
    29 and having plaited him a crown out of thorns they put it on his head, and a reed/2563<kalamon> in his right hand, and having kneeled before him, they were mocking him, saying, 'Hail, the king of the Jews.'
    30 And having spit on him, they took the reed/2563<kalamon>, and were smiting on his head
    .

    It is used on 1 time outside of the Gospels and Reve, and none other by the writer of Revelation:

    3 John 1:13
    Many things I had to write, but I do not wish through ink and pen/kalamou to write to thee,

    It is used 3 times in Revelation concerning measuring the New Holy City Jerusalem, this time with a golden reed:

    Reve 21:
    15 And he who is speaking with me had a golden reed, that he may measure the city, and its gates, and its wall;
    16 and the city lieth square, and the length of it is as great as the breadth; and he did measure the city with the reed -- furlongs twelve thousand; the length, and the breadth, and the height, of it are equal;

    Verse 1. - And there was given me a reed like unto a rod.
    We are not told by whom the reed is given, but in Revelation 21. the angel has the reed, and so also in Ezekiel 40, upon which the incident seems founded (see Ezekiel 40; and cf. the reference to the outer court in ver. 17). The reed is "like a rod;" that is, like to a staff. It is for a measuring line, as in Zechariah 2:1. And the angel stood, saying. Omit all except "saying," as in the Revised Version. Λέγων is used absolutely, not as qualifying κάλαμος, "reed," as Andreas (cf. Revelation 4:1; Revelation 14:7; Revelation 19:6). Rise, and measure the temple of God; rather, rouse and measure, etc. The imperative verb does not imply anything as to the previous position of St. John. "The temple" is ναός, the shrine or dwelling place of God (as in ver. 19; also Revelation 3:12; Revelation 7:15), the inner temple, as distinguished from the outer court next mentioned. It scarcely seems possible to doubt that the temple is here figuratively used of the faithful portion of the Church of Christ. The word is plainly thus used in Revelation 3:12 and Revelation 7:15; and is frequently found with this signification in St. Paul's writings, which were probably known to St. John. Dusterdieck and others think that St. John refers literally to the temple at Jerusalem, and to the earthly Jerusalem......................

    2:7 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod,....
    A measuring reed, which with the Jews was six cubits long, Ezekiel 40:5; with the Greeks and Romans, ten feet long; the Ethiopic version here calls it a "golden reed", as in Revelation 21:15. This was given unto John very likely by the same angel that gave him the little book, since he afterwards bids him arise and measure with it; and by it seems to be designed the holy Scripture, or the word of God, which is sometimes called a line, a rule, and rod, Psalm 19:4, and which is the rule and measure of doctrine and faith;

    11:1,2 This prophetical passage about measuring the temple seems to refer to Ezekiel's vision. The design of this measuring seems to be the preservation of the church in times of public danger; or for its trial, or for its reformation. The worshippers must be measured; whether they make God's glory their end, and his word their rule, in all their acts of worship. Those in the outer court, worship in a false manner, or with dissembling hearts, and will be found among his enemies. God will have a temple and an altar in the world, till the end of time. He looks strictly to his temple. The holy city, the visible church, is trodden under foot; is filled with idolaters, infidels, and hypocrites. But the desolations of the church are limited, and she shall be delivered out of all her troubles.
     
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