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Reve 13:11-18 "WILD BEAST OUT OF THE LAND/EARTH"

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  1. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    What is the identity of this 2nd Beast ascending out of the Land?

    I will be using commentaries from various sources, Lexicon/Concordance and Greek study sites.
    In my view it could be symbolizing the Nation of Judah/Judea/Jerusalem.
    I was going to make a poll thread but I really don't know what responses to put on it.
    Anyone have suggestions, as I can pretty much create a poll for awhile.
    Discuss

    Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
    1093.
    ge contracted from a primary word;
    soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
    G1093 γῆ () occurs 252 times in 226 verses

    1st time used in NT
    Matthew 2:6

    ‘But thou, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among the rulers of Judah;
    For out of Thee shall come a Ruler Who will shepherd My people Israel.’ ”


    Last time used:
    Revelation 21:24

    And the Nations of those who are saved shall walk in Its light,
    and the kings of the land bring their glory and honor into It.

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    The wild Beast Out of the Land/Earth


    11 And I saw another wild Beast ascending out of the land<1093>
    And it had two horns like a lambkin<721> and it spoke as a Dragon
    12 And the authority of the first wild Beast all it is doing in view of it.
    And is making the land and those dwelling in it that to be worshiping the first wild Beast, of which was cured the blow<4127> of the death of it.
    13 And it is doing great signs, that even fire it may be making out of the heaven descending into the land in view of the men.
    14 And It is deceiving those dwelling on the land thru the signs which was given to it to do in view of the wild Beast,
    saying to those dwelling upon the land to make an Image to the wild Beast which hath the blow of the sword and lives.
    15 And was given to it to give spirit/breath to the Image of the wild Beast, that also the Image of the wild Beast should be speaking.
    And should be causing as many ifever no should be worshiping to the Image of the wild Beast, that they may be being killed.
    16 And it is making all the small and the great and the rich and the poor, and the freemen and the slaves that may be giving to them a Mark<5480> upon their right hand or upon their foreheads.
    17 And that no one may be being able to buy or to sell, except he who is having the Mark of the wild Beast or the Name of the wild Beast or the number of it's Name.
    18 Here the Wisdom is being.
    The one having Mind, let him calculate! the number of the wild Beast, for number of man<444> is being.
    And its number six hundred sixty six.
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  2. yeshuaslavejeff

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    "Hypothesizing" from what it does: pharmacy ?
     
  3. LittleLambofJesus

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    Hello jsj.
    Interesting you should bring that up, as I did a Greek word study on "Pharisee" some years back.

    I was hard pressed to find any info in the OT concerning that sect until I studied on the Greek word for "Pharisee" and saw one of the root words was similar to the word "Pharaoh"..........

    Besides the 1st century Chief Priests, Sadduccees and Scribes, the Pharisees were one of Jesus' chief persecutors/adversaries and they became His footstool in 70AD

    They were indeed a "Beast" from the House/Nation of Judah..........
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    Exodus 7:11 And Pharaoh however is calling to wise-men and to ones making enchantments/03784 kashaph and they are doing even they sacred scribes of Egypt in occult's of them.
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    5330. Pharisaios of Hebrew origin
    (c a separatist, i.e. exclusively religious; a Pharisean, i.e. Jewish sectary:--Pharisee.
    5331. pharmakeia from 5332;
    medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):--sorcery, witchcraft.
    5328. Pharao of foreign origin (6547); Pharao (i.e. Pharoh), an Egyptian king:--Pharaoh.
    2447. ios perhaps from eimi (to go) or hiemi (to send); rust (as if emitted by metals); also venom (as emitted by serpents):--poison, rust. AV - poison 2, rust 1; 3



    John 7:1 And was walking, the Jesus, after these in the Galilee for not He willed in the Judea to be walking, that the Judeans sought Him to kill.

    Matthew 12:14 And the Pharisees/Pharisaios<5330> having gone forth, held a consultation against him, how they might destroy Him

    1 Thessalonians 2:14

    For ye imitators were become brothers of the Assemblies of the GOD, the ones being in the Judea in Christ Jesus. That these suffered and ye by the own together-tribes, according as also they by the Judeans.
    15 Of the also the killing of the Lord Jesus and the own of them prophets, and us persecuting; and to God no pleasing and to all men against,
    16 forbidding us to the Nations to speak that they may be being saved, into the to fill up of them the sins always. Yet upon them the wrath into a finish/end/teloV <5056>.

    James 5:6 Ye condemn, ye Murder<5407 the Righteous-One, not He is resisting to Ye.

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    Revelation 11:8

    And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our[fn] Lord was crucified.

    Revelation 9:21
    And not they reform out of their murders, nor out from their sorceries/pharmakeiwn <5331> ,...........


    5331. pharmakeia from 5332;
    medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):--sorcery, witchcraft.

    5330. Pharisaios of Hebrew origin
    (c a separatist, i.e. exclusively religious; a Pharisean, i.e. Jewish sectary:--Pharisee.
    5328. Pharao of foreign origin (6547); Pharao (i.e. Pharoh), an Egyptian king:--Pharaoh.
    2447. ios perhaps from eimi (to go) or hiemi (to send); rust (as if emitted by metals); also venom (as emitted by serpents):--poison, rust. AV - poison 2, rust 1; 3
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    Matthew 23:33-38: A Preterist Commentary - Revelation Revolution

    Killing to Prevent the Inevitable
    What was the Motive for Jesus’ Execution according to the Bible?


    Throughout His ministry recorded in the gospels, Jesus repeatedly and publicly decried the hypocrisy of the teachers of the Law and Pharisees. In the presence of these men, Jesus declared the following in Matthew 21:43: “Therefore I say to you [the teachers of the Law and Pharisees], the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people, producing the fruit of it.” The teachers of the Law and Pharisees understood the kingdom of God to be the Messianic kingdom. Feeling threatened by Jesus’ words in Matthew 21:43 and especially Luke 19:27, the chief priests and Pharisees feared that they would lose their positions of authority if Jesus became the king of the Israel. Therefore, it is not surprising that after Jesus spoke these words these men plotted to have him arrested to prevent Jesus from becoming king of the Jews

    In Matthew 21:43-45 the motive leading to Jesus’ arrest and subsequent crucifixion is made clear. After Jesus spoke the words recorded above, the teachers of the Law and Pharisees began searching for a way to have Jesus arrested. The first and most obvious strategy they employed was to turn Jesus’ ambiguous Messianic ambition against Him.

    First century Israel was not a sovereign nation. Israel was under Roman rule. The teachers of the Law and Pharisees correctly understood that if Israel crowned any man the sovereign king of Israel as the Messiah was expected to be this act would inevitably trigger a war with Rome.

    After calling a meeting of the Sanhedrin, the teachers of the Law selfishly plotted to dispose of Jesus for their own gain under the noble guise of avoiding a war with Rome: “If we let him [Jesus] go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation (John 11:48).”

    Fulfilled! Matthew 24:34 Commentary: Another Connection between the Exodus and the End of the Age . . .


    Numbers 32:13 implies that a generation is about forty years: “The Lord’s anger burned against Israel and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until the whole generation of those who had done evil in his sight was gone.” Interestingly, there was a generation or forty year interval from the time Jesus began His ministry, around Tishri of A.D. 29, to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of its temple in A.D. 70.6Daniel 9:24-27 Commentary: Daniel 9 Miraculously Fulfilled! During this generation or forty year interval, Jesus’ promise of judgment came to pass and the wicked people of Israel were purged from the land by death and exile as a consequence of the war with Rome. At the time of the exodus, God killed off the wicked generation of Israelites that He had taken out of Egypt over a forty year timeframe thereby preventing them from entering Israel, the Promised Land.

    Similarly during the time of the end, God also killed off and exiled that wicked generation that had killed the Messiah and many of His people over the course of a generation or forty years. Neither generation was allowed to enter or stay in Israel, the Promised Land.
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  4. LittleLambofJesus

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    I and some others view the 1st century OC Jews/Jewish circumcision group rulers as the Beast out of the Land
    [Nero and the Romans/Gentiles could be the Sea beast?]
    A lot of 1st century corrupt murderous Jews [mainly the Jewish Rulers] were indeed "beastly" and of the Devil.......

    Jhn 8:44
    Ye are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

    Jhn 19:12
    From then on Pilate sought to release Him, but the Jews cried out, saying, “If you let this Man go, you are not Caesar's friend. Whoever makes himself a king speaks against Caesar.”
    Jhn 19:15
    But they cried out, “Away with Him, away with Him! Crucify Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?”
    The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!”
    [Romans/Gentiles Beast from the Sea Revelation 13:1?]

    Peter and Jude speak of them.

    2Pe 2:
    But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,
    13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you,
    15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
    Jde 1:
    10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves.
    12 These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about[fn] by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots;

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    BEAST OUT OF THE LAND

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    Revelation 13:11 And I saw another wild Beast ascending out of the land,
    and it had two horns like a lambkin and it spoke as a Dragon.


    We have discussed the first of two beasts, the beast which came up out of the sea. By the spirit of truth we understand that that beast which combined within itself the appearance of a leopard, a bear, and a lion, which had seven heads and ten horns, is the symbol of the BESTIAL WORLD SYSTEM OF MAN.

    Now we are presented with a second beast! And to prevent any misunderstanding at all, let me say from the outset that there is a definite relation between the first beast and the second beast. The full picture is just this. The second beast rises up out of the earth.
    He is less formidable in appearance. First of all, his origin is not in the depths of the stormy sea, but from the more quiet and more stable earth. He strikes you as looking like a lamb, for he has two horns like lambs’ horns, yet when he speaks, he sounds like the awful red dragon. And there is a very definite connection between these two beasts. Repeatedly this is indicated in the description John gives us. He exercises all his authority in the sight of, in the presence of, and even in behalf of the first beast. All that he does he does both in the presence of, and with the approval of, the first beast. Therefore, one of the functions of this second beast is to collaborate with and augment the agenda of the first beast. And this soon becomes apparent! For the second beast causes the inhabitants of the earth-realm to wonder after the first beast, to admire him, and to pay respect and homage (worship) to him. This second beast inspires men to construct an image of the first beast, in order to pay homage to the first beast through his image. The second beast causes all the admirers of the first beast to receive a mark which distinguishes them from those who refuse to worship this beast and his image, in order that they may be killed.

    When John spoke of certain people which were of the spirit of antichrist, he did not refer to all opposers of Christ. Instead, he referred to a certain class of people — apostates who were teaching things contrary to the reality that is in Christ. These were not openly against Christ, they were professing believers and apparent ministers of Christ! These were no longer in accord with those who abode in the truth as it is in Jesus, for John says of these antichrists, “…even now there are many antichrists… they went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be manifest that they were not all of us” (I Jn. 2:18-19). Therefore we find that John’s use of the word “antichrist” signifies not merely one who opposes Christ, but one who sets himself up in the place of Christ, appropriating some of the attributes of Christ, but substituting error in the place of truth, and form in the place of reality. Anything that is placed instead of Christ is literally antichrist. Have we not embraced and practiced a lot of religious attitudes, ideas, beliefs, doctrines, rituals, ceremonies, sacraments, ordinances, traditions, forms, means, and methods which have TAKEN THE PLACE OF TRUTH AND REALITY in our lives! These certainly contained bits and shades of truth and life, but they were NOT THE LIVING REALITY OF CHRIST WITHIN AT ALL! They were shadow, but not substance; form, but not essence; works, but not power. Any little form of substitution that detracts from His indwelling life is indeed ANTICHRIST!
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    "Ye will hear of battles and rumors of battles" 1st century concluding in Judea/Jerusalem 70ad

    Matthew 24:
    6 “And you will hear of battles and rumors of battles. See that you are not troubled;
    for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
    7 “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
    And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
    8 “All these are the beginning of sorrows.”
    Mark 13:
    7 “But when you hear of battles and rumors of battles, do not be troubled;
    for such things must happen, but the end is not yet.
    8 “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
    And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles.
    These are the beginnings of sorrows.”
    Luke 21:
    9 “But when you hear of battles and commotions/tumults, do not be terrified;
    for these things must come to pass first, but the end is not immediate.”
    10 Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
    11 “And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences;
    and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven.”
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