jerry kelso
Food For Thought
I agree - Jesus was pointing also to the gift of the Holy Spirit which was to come (when Jesus stated that).....but why did Peter quote Joel and say, "This is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel” (Acts 2:15) if he wasn't referring to - at least PART of - the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy? What would be Peter's reason to include that (in your mind)?
Acts 2:1-22 ~
1 When Pentecost Day arrived, they were all together in one place.
2 Suddenly a sound from heaven like the howling of a fierce wind filled the entire house where they were sitting.
3 They saw what seemed to be individual flames of fire alighting on each one of them.
4 They were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages as the Spirit enabled them to speak.
5 There were pious Jews from every nation under heaven living in Jerusalem.
6When they heard this sound, a crowd gathered. They were mystified because everyone heard them speaking in their native languages.
7 They were surprised and amazed, saying, "Look, aren't all the people who are speaking Galileans, every one of them?
8 How then can each of us hear them speaking in our native language?
9Parthians, Medes, and Elamites; as well as residents of Mesopotamia, Judea, and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,
10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the regions of Libya bordering Cyrene; and visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism),
11 Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the mighty works of God in our own languages!"
12 They were all surprised and bewildered. Some asked each other, "What does this mean?"
13 Others jeered at them, saying, "They're full of new wine!"
14 Peter stood with the other eleven apostles. He raised his voice and declared, “Judeans and everyone living in Jerusalem! Know this! Listen carefully to my words!
15 These people aren't drunk, as you suspect; after all, it's only nine o'clock in the morning!
16 Rather, this is what was spoken through the prophet Joel:
17In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young will see visions. Your elders will dream dreams.
18 Even upon my servants, men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
19 I will cause wonders to occur in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and a cloud of smoke.
20 The sun will be changed into darkness, and the moon will be changed into blood, before the great and spectacular day of the Lord comes.
21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to these words! Jesus the Nazarene was a man whose credentials God proved to you through miracles, wonders, and signs, which God performed through him among you. You yourselves know this. ~ Acts 2 - CEB Bible - When Pentecost Day arrived, they were all together...
Joel 2:27-32 ~ You will know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God—no other exists; never again will my people be put to shame.
28 After that I will pour out my spirit upon everyone; your sons and your daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, and your young men will see visions.
29 In those days, I will also pour out my spirit on the male and female slaves.
30 I will give signs in the heavens and on the earth—blood and fire and columns of smoke.
31 The sun will be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood before the great and dreadful day of the LORD comes.
32 But everyone who calls on the LORD's name will be saved. ~ Joel 2 - CEB Bible - Blow the horn in Zion; give a shout on my holy...
Notice what's left out in Peter's sermon "for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be security, as the LORD has promised; and in Jerusalem, the LORD will summon those who survive." There was no longer security in the earthly city of Jerusalem.
mkgal1,
1. Acts 2:16-20; Peter said that which was spoken by the prophet Joel not fulfillment.
The only thing basically that happened from Joel’s prophesy was the Spirit being poured out and speaking in tongues was the evidence he had come and people calling on the name of the Lord.
There was nothing about daughters prophesying, men having visions or wonders in Heaven and sign in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke: or the sun turning into darkness, and the moon turning to blood, and the great and notable day wasn’t close to happening.
2. Blow the horn in Zion will not happen till the tribulation in the season of the Day of the Lord Joel 2:1.
3. In the time of Jacob’s trouble Israel’s national light will almost be snuffed out.
Daniel 12:7,11; Revelation 11:2; Zechariah 14:1-2. Jerry Kelso
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