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He doesn't. Evolution is whichever story they want to tell on whichever day they tell it. Which one of the 20 different theories is true about how life started? Which particular one do you subscribe to? Or do you choose all of them so that you can change your story day-by-day?
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GA's aren't the product of the blind algorithm is not reflective of evolution and is dependent upon knowledge from the programmer.
irrelevant.
flight simulators fall into the same category as GA's.
the space shuttle test flights were ALL made by computer simulation except 2.
the first such test was when she was released from a 747 and glided back to landing.
even this test was completely controlled by a computer.
the second fight was manned by crippen and young and was a full blown manned flight from launch to touch down.
the above was made possible by programming into the computer ALL of the variables, processes, and characteristics of the shuttle and the environment it would operate in.
contrast this with the mercury, gemini, and apollo program, where dozens of flights using actual hardware was made to validate the rocket.
the problem with GA's is . . . i've never seen one.
if there is indeed such a thing, i would like to see a link to it.
we have already determined boxcar2d does not simulate the accumulation of genes, transposons, hgt, nor epigenetics.
a simulator is a simulator is a simulator, be it for a pair of dice or the formation of galaxies.No, flight simulators (or indeed any such simulator) do not qualify as a "genetic algoritm".
actually it's the (irrelevant) opinion of eugene koonin.1. Calling it "unsolvable" is, again, just your (irrelevant) opinion
Not a phrase I'd expect from anyone who knows what they're talking about.actually it is not even close to infinite.
computer memory is not like the number line in that you can just add more locations.Not a phrase I'd expect from anyone who knows what they're talking about.
Even with the prompt you still don't see what's wrong with the statement I quoted?computer memory is not like the number line in that you can just add more locations.
another thing you seem to be forgetting is that not all combinations are going to be valid.
filling a computer memory with random ones and zeroes for example will not give valid results.
this stuff MUST be ordered.
also, when comparing this with DNA you cannot "switch out" code segments like dogmahunter suggests.
we have already determined boxcar2d does not simulate the accumulation of genes, transposons, hgt, nor epigenetics.
as for wiki, i am interested in the simulation of evolution by computer program that simulates ALL the processes involved, not just a select few that gives the results you want it to give.
a simulator is a simulator is a simulator, be it for a pair of dice or the formation of galaxies.
actually it's the (irrelevant) opinion of eugene koonin.
apparently your highly touted GA algorithm isn't "all that".
unless of course you want to concede the origins of life doesn't deal with genetics.
the only "evidence" for evolution is rational common sense.
as far as i know, there is no real hard evidence for it.
science has been unable to prove inanimate matter can become alive.
science has been unable to prove a dinosaur can become a bird.
some will no doubt point to the time scales involved,
but this is irrelevant with computers when speeds can be factored on the order of billions.
It isn't irrelevant because evolution is suppose to be mindless, it is not planned for optimization and the program is.
i will say this, if someone writes a computer program that models how atoms can become a man, and that program is verified as accurate, then you can bet it can actually happen.
the shuttle example above demonstrates this beyond question.
i can't read minds, so state yours.Even with the prompt you still don't see what's wrong with the statement I quoted?
Keep digging?
dogmahunter,
despite your wall of text, GA's MUST by definition simulate how DNA acquires genes, then how those genes "mutate".
this would be the only way i know of to actually simulate evolution.
to those ends, i haven't seen one single program that does that.
if there is, then present a link to it.
i hate to break it to you, but that's EXACTLY what evolution is all about, the manipulation of biochemistry.No, that would be a simulation of biochemistry.
i hate to break it to you, but that's EXACTLY what evolution is all about, the manipulation of biochemistry.
Evolution doesn't address the origins of life.
You might want to read up on some basics.
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