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Is there any evidence that Cruz called for the murder of AOC?
I've tried to track down what this is based on. AOC seems to have talked about Cruz' support of the election fraud lie, on the grounds that this lie motivated the mob, and at least some in the mob did seem to intend to kill members of Congress. Does that justify saying "you almost had me murdered?" Not exactly. But then AOC has never been the most reasonable of Democrats.
 
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Congress people calling for the murder of other congress people. Yeah that sort of thing will trigger some justified scrutiny.

I'm calling for scrutiny on this statement above. Please provide a link with the actual quote of a member of congress calling for the murder of another member of congress. That is a federal crime.

Please do so, because it seems yet another over reaction of something imagined, but makes great drama.
 
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I'm calling for scrutiny on this statement above. Please provide a link with the actual quote of a member of congress calling for the murder of another member of congress. That is a federal crime.

Please do so, because it seems yet another over reaction of something imagined, but makes great drama.
I probably should have been more precise. Im talking about MTGreene endorsing calls for the assassination of congress people.

Just from a work environment pov, she should not be permitted to have an office among other congress people offices.
 
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I probably should have been more precise. Im talking about MTGreene endorsing calls for the assassination of congress people.

Just from a work environment pov, she should not be permitted to have an office among other congress people offices.

Link showing direct quote - second request.

You are speaking of a literal threat - show it.
 
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Link showing direct quote - second request.

You are speaking of a literal threat - show it.
google "greene a bullet to the head would be quicker" so you can choose your own source and I dont have to play the "biased source!" game with you.

Other similar 'likes' re assassinating "deep state" FBI agents.

Yeah, she "liked" these posts rather than originating the call for assassinations herself. But still just endorsing assassination of your co-workers in govt ought to be enough to get you booted.
 
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AND we should also scrutinize the ties of the Dems to Marxist groups.
And if Democrats support an Marxist army attacking the Capitol, they should be investigated.
And just BTW, which Marxist groups are on the US terrorist list?
 
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And if Democrats support an Marxist army attacking the Capitol, they should be investigated.
And just BTW, which Marxist groups are on the US terrorist list?
My goodness! We just recently experienced Democratic members of Congress openly calling themselves Socialists, endorsing the 'Democratic Socialists of America' organization, and hardly any prominent Democratic official has spoken out with any force against Antifa, a Marxist organization of longstanding. How much more do you need, my friend, in order to admit that Marxism has found support within one of our two major political parties?!

Democratic Socialists for Bernie (dsausa.org)
 
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Please stay on-topic folks. If you want to start a thread about Democratic congressional leaders with ties to extremists groups calling for the assassination of people in the government please start that thread. This thread is about Republican ties to extremist groups that were part of the insurrection on January 6.
 
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This thread isn't about GOP attempts to label everything they don't like as SOCIALISM!
It's funny seeing them dust off this old smear, much like their newfound fear of deficits. Deficits were great when it came to tax cuts, but now it's the scariest thing. I think one of the reasons they are trying hard to run away from stories like this is because they want a "return to normalcy" where they accuse others of extremism while codifying radicals on their side of the political spectrum. Before, they never gave these extremists power, but as the base of the GOP has eroded under Trump, the extremists have become the rule as opposed to the exception. Nonetheless, the usual forces now wish to distract from this because they still want to embrace these elements in hopes of recapturing power in 2022 and 2024.
 
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Please stay on-topic folks. If you want to start a thread about Democratic congressional leaders with ties to extremists groups calling for the assassination of people in the government please start that thread. This thread is about Republican ties to extremist groups that were part of the insurrection on January 6.
In other words, the conclusion that is supposed to be reached is stipulated up front. ;)
 
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It's funny seeing them dust off this old smear, much like their newfound fear of deficits.

It's not so funny when the issue is identified and a question is asked, but any attempt at answering is considered impermissible.
 
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My goodness! We just recently experienced Democratic members of Congress openly calling themselves Socialists, endorsing the 'Democratic Socialists of America' organization, and hardly any prominent Democratic official has spoken out with any force against Antifa, a Marxist organization of longstanding. How much more do you need, my friend, in order to admit that Marxism has found support within one of our two major political parties?!

Democratic Socialists for Bernie (dsausa.org)

1) I guess you don't know the meaning of the words "Marxist" or "socialist". I agree that Democrats lost seats by being called Marxists and communists. That makes such nonsense good politics with no relationship the truth. Supporters of Sanders call themselves "socialists" and "social-Democrats" . I have fought the left for 60 years. These folks are hardly Marxists. Few are even close to being socialists.

2) There is a word for those who think that the danger in the US is Antifa, rather than the white supremacist groups that attacked the capitol. That word is "Republican".

3) Please provide the reference for Antifa being designated a terrorist organization.
Statements by Our Fearless Leader and his supporters don't count.
 
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1) I guess you don't know the meaning of the words "Marxist" or "socialist".

Oh, I know full well that any reference to Marxism will be struck down by people who say that Marxism means just being nice to other people or that it's something that happened in the USSR long ago but doesn't exist anywhere near us these days. Excuses of that sort.

Of course the same people are not reluctant to claim that Trump is a Nazi. THEN the same need for excruciating exactness in labelling doesn't mean a thing. ;)

But when the evidence is clear, as perhaps was not always the case but has been lately--and I identified some of it for you in my post--it speaks for itself.
 
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Oh, I know full well that any reference to Marxism will be struck down by people who say that Marxism means just being nice to other people or that it's something that happened in the USSR long ago but doesn't exist anywhere near us these days. Excuses of that sort.

Of course the same people are not reluctant to claim that Trump is a Nazi. THEN the same need for excruciating exactness in labelling doesn't mean a thing. ;)

But when the evidence is clear, as perhaps was not always the case but has been lately--and I identified some of it for you in my post--it speaks for itself.

Your remarks do indeed speak for themselves.

For others, the USSR was a communist dictatorship. Russia is currently a communist dictatorship. Calling followers of Sanders Marxists, similar to the USSR, is a political strategy that works. Sanders and his policies are no more similar to the USSR than is the local food cooperative. It is always interesting that folks use "USSR" as the example instead of Russia, the friend and ally of the last administration.
 
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Russia is currently a communist dictatorship. Calling followers of Sanders Marxists, similar to the USSR, is a political strategy that works. Sanders and his policies are no more similar to the USSR than is the local food cooperative. It is always interesting that folks use "USSR" as the example instead of Russia, the friend and ally of the last administration.

The issue was Marxism, not Soviet Communism. And that was your own statement, the one that prompted my reply.

And if Democrats support an Marxist army attacking the Capitol, they should be investigated.
And just BTW, which Marxist groups are on the US terrorist list?
 
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I've tried to track down what this is based on. AOC seems to have talked about Cruz' support of the election fraud lie, on the grounds that this lie motivated the mob, and at least some in the mob did seem to intend to kill members of Congress. Does that justify saying "you almost had me murdered?" Not exactly. But then AOC has never been the most reasonable of Democrats.

You have a point, but people like Cruz should have known better, that eventually this sort of nonsense would incite violence against government representatives.
 
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I've tried to track down what this is based on. AOC seems to have talked about Cruz' support of the election fraud lie, on the grounds that this lie motivated the mob, and at least some in the mob did seem to intend to kill members of Congress. Does that justify saying "you almost had me murdered?" Not exactly. But then AOC has never been the most reasonable of Democrats.
That would excuse her for saying Cruz tired to murder her after all false claims of attempted murder are nothing to be concerned about, Right? , but if a Rep said anything like that, would the Dems be so dismissive?
 
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And if Democrats support an Marxist army attacking the Capitol, they should be investigated.
And just BTW, which Marxist groups are on the US terrorist list?
And if the Dems find nothing to critize in the riots of last year maybe we should be asking why they encourage, murder, assault, arson, property damage, looting etc. by the way the attack on a federal building in Portland is acceptable but an attack on the Capitol is not, that double standard needs to be considered as well. Either you accept and condone attacks on federal building or you dont, the left just needs to decide what their values are and then be consistent.
 
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