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Repent ?

Discussion in 'Spiritual Gifts' started by tturt, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. tturt

    tturt Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Last few years, there seems to be emphasis on not repenting after salvation by some. I couldnt disagree more. These Scriptures were written to churches - repent
    Rev 2:
    -To the Ephesus church "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."
    -To the church in Pergamos "Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth."
    -to the Thyatira's church "And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds."
    Rev 3
    - church in Sardis "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent..."
    - church of the Laodiceans "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

    Why would a believer have a problem repenting to God?
     
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  2. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    I think the flesh, the carnal 'original' self, rebels against God instead of turning to Him.
     
  3. faroukfarouk

    faroukfarouk Fading curmudgeon

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    The believer by definition is a repentant person:

    "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death." (2 Corinthians 7.10)
     
  4. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Not all the time:
    "even the demons BELIEVE, and shudder in terror" .....
    and
    again "some of the religious leaders believed..... but wanted the love of men more than the love of God"
    so they did not follow Jesus..... (did not repent, nor be immersed in Jesus' Name, nor follow Jesus, nor obey God)
     
  5. topher694

    topher694 Go Turtle!

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    Most commonly? Pride. Selfishness. Greed.
     
  6. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    There is no evidence that Paul intended his letters to become scripture. He gives no permission in writing for them to be reprinted.
     
  7. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    Jesus taught the New Covenant which is far better then the old one
    which has requirements to God.
     
  8. faroukfarouk

    faroukfarouk Fading curmudgeon

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    They were not true believers, were they?
     
  9. faroukfarouk

    faroukfarouk Fading curmudgeon

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    In some writings he indicated he thought he had the mind of the Spirit.
     
  10. topher694

    topher694 Go Turtle!

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    Huh?
     
  11. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    And he claimed Jesus blinded him for three days.
    Has that happened to any Christians you know of
    over the last 9000 years?

    John 8:12
    Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

    John 1:5
    The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

    Matthew 5:16
    In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

    1 John 1:7
    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

    Psalm 119:105
    Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.

    Ephesians 5:8
    For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light

    Matthew 5:14
    “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden.

    1 Peter 2:9
    But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

    1 John 1:5
    This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

    Psalm 27:1
    Of David. The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
     
  12. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Yahweh throughout all of His Own Inspired Word says clearly what is Scripture,
    and that those who oppose Paul or any other Apostle of Jesus or their words
    have already rejected Jesus.
     
  13. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Yahweh Says it, His Word Confirms it, it happened in harmony with all of Jesus' Plan and Purpose and Salvation by faith as revealed by Yahweh.

     
  14. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Note you did not say "true believer', as if to make any distinction .... between believers as a group or as different groups.

    They really believed , they were 'real' believers, though they were not and are not in Jesus.
     
  15. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    A lot of confusion and contrary to all Scripture comes from those who oppose Yahweh.
     
  16. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Yahweh Reveals in total Harmony that the Apostle Paul was taught by Jesus Himself, and that Paul was chosen by Yahweh to be the Apostle as revealed throughout and completely in Harmony with all the Gospel of Jesus as revealed to all the others who were Apostles also.
    There is not even one 'true' contradiction in the Word of Yahweh, in all Scripture, and
    those who oppose the Apostles are also said by Jesus to be opposed to Jesus , to have rejected Jesus, and to be opposed to Yahweh.
     
  17. Lady Donna Marie

    Lady Donna Marie Well-Known Member

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    The whole goal in being a Christian is to be Christlike. So since Christ didn't/doesn't sin and we do then repenting/stop sinning is a way to change who we are and turn towards the ways of God that are virtuous.
     
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  18. faroukfarouk

    faroukfarouk Fading curmudgeon

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    Sir, you are not showing a desire to read the Word of God in faith and to 'approve things that are excellent' (Philippians 1.10).
     
  19. CharismaticLady

    CharismaticLady Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It is good to study the letters to the seven churches. Notice those who need to repent as opposed to those who don't. There are more in the Church that need to repent, that is for sure due to false doctrines. For instance, the apostles NEVER said it was impossible to stop sinning. They taught us to keep growing and maturing, and even be sinless and perfect so that we will never stumble (sin).

    2 Peter 1:
    2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

    10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
     
  20. topher694

    topher694 Go Turtle!

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    So help me out. Is what I'm seeing here a rule skirting attempt to question Paul's Apostleship?
     
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