Refusing to come up with a compromise -- hurts ALL THE PEOPLE

[Mountainmanbob]

 

[YanKee Gal]

Good article. It really is. If they removed the speaker of the house and Schumler and put two others in their place then the democratic party would come forward and work for the people and work things out. Pelosi refuses to cooperate. that to me is an insult to the american people as they are partying while we suffer.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

So Trump comes up with a pretty good offer and where are the Democrats refusing to say a word except for no.

Where is their counter-offer?
None to be seen.

All politicians that refuse at this time to come to the table should be voted out as soon as possible.

Political grandstanding.

And still the people suffer.

M-Bob

 

[mama2one]

So comes up with a pretty good offer
And still the people suffer.

what good offer?
"and still the people suffer".....thanks to person 1

do the airports need to shut down before he does anything?
more and more TSA's are calling off work and others are quitting to get jobs to support their families

why work and not get paid; TSA's don't get paid enough to work this long w/o pay

so many work and live paycheck to paycheck but he doesn't care; he can't relate
there are people who are in real danger now

danger of not paying their mortgage/ losing their houses
people choosing between medical care and electricity
(these are real people's stories being shown on our news)

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Yes at least Trump has an offer on the table what have the Democrats offered except for one big fat zero.
M-Bob

 

[EpiscipalMe]

So Trump comes up with a pretty good offer and where are the Democrats refusing to say a word except for no.

Where is their counter-offer?
None to be seen.

All politicians that refuse at this time to come to the table should be voted out as soon as possible.

Political grandstanding.

And still the people suffer.

M-Bob

The House has passed several spending bills to reopen the government and offered to discuss border security after that. This is their offer.

And, if you want to start a discussion on reasonable compromise, I wouldn’t open with a link to Fox News - especially Judge Jeanine. At least it wasn’t Hannity, he would have been a worse opener.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

to reopen the government and offered to discuss border security after that.




And, if you want to start a discussion on reasonable compromise, I wouldn’t open with a link to Fox News - especially Judge Jeanine. At least it wasn’t Hannity, he would have been a worse opener.

I like that after that that ain't no offer.
M-Bob

 

[Mountainmanbob]

In shutdown fight with Trump, Dems reject immigration deal they once sponsored

 

[Arcangl86]

In shutdown fight with Trump, Dems reject immigration deal they once sponsored

They don't see a three year extension to DACA being worth the wall, especially since DACA is currently protected by the court system. The point of the BRIDGE act was to prevent Trump from doing exactly what he did and buying time to come up with a permanent solution. That is not the case any more.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Give DACA a fast track to citizenship and let's call it a deal.

Of course throw in a little wall or fence for Trump to be fair.

M-Bob

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Give DACA a fast track to citizenship and let's call it a deal.

Of course throw in a little wall or fence for Trump to be fair.

M-Bob

I think that would be a fair deal. However, the far right wing of the Republican Party would probably not go for it. Word is that they are already complaining about the minimal DACA protections that Trump offered.

 

[Arcangl86]

Give DACA a fast track to citizenship and let's call it a deal.

Of course throw in a little wall or fence for Trump to be fair.

M-Bob

I think that would be a good compromise. The DREAM Act for money for his wall. Though I would prefer if they just horse traded for that after passing a clean CR.

 

[jgarden]

Refusing to come up with a compromise -- hurts ALL THE PEOPLE

Where was Judge Jeanie a year ago when the Democrats offered to support legislation that would have provided $25 billion for "THE WALL" in exchange for a path to citizenship for the Dreamers/DACA?

President Trump, in his infinite wisdom, refused to compromise and dismissed the deal!

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

Ironically Democrats for decades have supported improvements and other wall related stuff... then Trump won and now they act as if they never wanted anything to do with the wall. This has nothing to do with politics, just simple Trump hate.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Ironically Democrats for decades have supported improvements and other wall related stuff... then Trump won and now they act as if they never wanted anything to do with the wall. This has nothing to do with politics, just simple Trump hate.

You mean in 2006 when they supported comprehensive border security reform?
Secure Fence Act of 2006 - Wikipedia

Or in 2013 when they also supported a comprehensive border security plan?
Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

Neither time did Democrats support just a “wall” as proposed by Trump.

Also, the 2013 bill was blocked by Republicans (32 no votes in the Senate - all Republicans, not brought for a vote in the Republican led House). Why is it that Republicans were against border security when Obama was President but are now holding up the government for border security?

 

[Petros2015]

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

You mean in 2006 when they supported comprehensive border security reform?
Secure Fence Act of 2006 - Wikipedia

Or in 2013 when they also supported a comprehensive border security plan?
Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

Neither time did Democrats support just a “wall” as proposed by Trump.

Also, the 2013 bill was blocked by Republicans (32 no votes in the Senate - all Republicans, not brought for a vote in the Republican led House). Why is it that Republicans were against border security when Obama was President but are now holding up the government for border security?

Still they wanted to do things with the border. Which now they claim theres not much wrong with and immigrants should just come in illegally. Especially in caravans.

I do realize some Republicans were stubborn during Obamas time. But two wrongs don't make a right. Its why I say politics is just about adults who usually act like children in a school yard still.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Still they wanted to do things with the border. Which now they claim theres not much wrong with and immigrants should just come in illegally. Especially in caravans.

I do realize some Republicans were stubborn during Obamas time. But two wrongs don't make a right. Its why I say politics is just about adults who usually act like children in a school yard still.

They don’t say nothing is wrong. They say a border wall (especially without other reforms) is not the answer and that during a shutdown is not the time to negotiate a solution to a complex problem.

The bills supported by Dems in the past were not the same as what is being proposed now.

 

[The Barbarian]

Given that the American people, by an overwhelming margin, blame Trump for the shutdown, and given that the people he has taken hostage are blaming him, the democrats have little incentive to reward him for taking them hostage.

You never reward people for doing that; they'll just do it again.