Well, from where I’m standing, this forum is not supposed to be political and most definitely it’s not here as a place to tell people medical advice, diagnose folks, or play internet doctor. In my humble opinion, that seems to be taking place.
No one is trying to stifle debate. I’m merely pointing out that this thread is not only beating a dead horse, it has taken the horse, thrown it into a wood chipper and run over what’s left with a Hummer.
Is TAW a place to spread conspiracy theories (on either side, pro or con)? Are we here so we can scare the bejeemenies out of people? Are we here to send a message of antivaxx to prospective converts? Does this thread further the Gospel or a knowledge of the ancient faith? Call me crazy, but is this what we want newbies to see?
With respect, is your role here to “warn others” about a vaccine? Where do we draw the line with turning an Orthodox forum into a health advice seminar? Should we start talking about diabetes and giving advice? Maybe we could begin an obesity topic or we could get our keto Orthodox to start a Thunderdome grudge match with our vegan Orthodox? Are you also inclined to talk people in here out of smoking? Cigarettes kill far more than this virus. Should we get into conspiracy threads about EMF’s and faraday cages? Where does it stop?
I can honestly tell you I have had PM’s from several people telling me they’re uncomfortable with the way this topic is going and think the thread sucks as well. I’m not saying this in a vacuum.
You tell me I don’t have to contribute here. I’ve felt I should because what is being said in here is anecdotal. If all the negative anecdotes are the only ones being propagated, perhaps a person with positive anecdotes may be permitted the right to share?
I say this respectfully as well, but I find it a tad hard to believe you welcome my thoughts. They haven’t felt too welcomed. And “debate” isn’t really what we come to TAW for imho. This isn’t Bill Buckley vs Gore Vidal.
When you say the “truth” can be hard to hear, I must say that runs in two directions. The fact that I’ve never met anyone out of the hundreds of people I know to suffer any I’ll effects from the vaccine isn’t a welcome anecdote here as far as I see it. Are we going to debate “truth” with a vaccine?
How far will this thread go? Is it worth running posters off? Do we want TAW to be the anti-Moderna sub forum?
TAW used to be very anti-politics. Extremely apolitical. That’s what I found endearing. Perhaps the rules have changed and I missed the memo. TV, music, radio, work, sports, everything is political in 2021. Must TAW be so as well? If I’m trying to “stifle debate” to get TAW to get back to its roots, I guess Im guilty. Call me Reader Stifler.
I say this not as a pure saint either. I’ve made my views abundantly clear on everything from guns to Trump to socialism to taxes, etc. And honestly I shouldn’t have. We need less debate, and more discussion.
I would like to thank the moderators for allowing debate on an extremely important issue which is being censored on the internet, namely about whether this vaccine is safe or effective in ending a pandemic.
Respectfully gurney, you don’t have to click on the thread or contribute. I welcome your thoughts but don’t welcome your attempts at stifling debate. This thread is about providing information for people before they make an important decision on their health. A decision which everyone is being forced to make. I am not surprised that some, even many, may not like to hear about what the media is trying to hide. The truth can often times be hard to swallow. But as long as I see dangers and I can warn others, I will, so God help me. He will judge and it’s His judgment I am most concerned about.
In fact there are countless articles I find and don’t post here because I know it can be distressing to people who have already received the jab. So I am sensitive to that and try my best at giving just enough to cause the reader to do their own investigation and research. And I am not saying that people have to put their trust in me. I am a faceless poster on the internet. Rather, I urge others to not so easily put their trust to the talking heads on the tv but rather do their own research.