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Redemption then Restoration

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by keras, May 29, 2018.

  1. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Isaiah 41:1 - Keep silent before Me you coasts and islands, let the peoples renew their strength. Let them draw near, let them speak up, then: together we shall go to the place of judgement. Isaiah 49:1-6
    People of the 'coasts and islands', people NOT currently in the holy Land.
    Five steps are mentioned here by the prophet; keep silent – When ancient Israel migrated from their captivity in Assyria, they remained hidden until they regained their strength. Then, let them come near : awaken to the true gospel, evangelism from John Wycliffe to Billy Graham, etc.
    Let them speak : proclaim the good news around the world, our missionary activity.

    Still to come is ‘Let us meet in the place of judgement’ Ezekiel 20:34-38, Isaiah 41:8-9. God will soon call His people back to the Land, all the faithful Christians from every nation; Jews and Gentiles, where the administration of His commandments and ordinance’s will be restored. Ezekiel 36:27, Ezekiel 44:23-24

    Deuteronomy 4:27, Jeremiah 3:8 The original chosen people were divorced from God and sent into exile for their sins. This is for a decreed period only. Ezekiel 4:4-6

    Then God gave Ezekiel a vision of a valley full of dry bones;

    Ezekiel 37:11 These bones represent the whole house of Israel [now; every Christian believer] They say: our hope is gone, we are cut off. [from God] Jeremiah 50:6

    Ezekiel 37:9-10 The Lord God says: let the winds [Gods Spirit] come and breath into
    the slain [dead to the Spirit] that they might live. They came to life and stood
    up: a mighty company! [of born again Christians] Romans 9:24-26

    Ezekiel 37:12-13 I will bring you up from your graves [our present condition] and
    restore you to the Land of Israel. Isaiah 62:1-5, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Jeremiah 50:4-5


    Through Isaiah, God gives a message to Israel, identifying them as a people who have lost the knowledge of their origin and forgotten their ancestors. Isaiah 49:21

    Isaiah 51:1-2 Listen to Me, all you who know the Law [the common Judeo-Christian Law of our countries] You who seek the Lord [Christian peoples] consider your origin, where you came from- Abraham and Sarah are your parents. I blessed them and now you are their offspring. Romans 8:14, Ephesians 2:11-18

    God is looking forward to the day when the redemptive work of the Lord Jesus is completed. Isaiah 50 & 51, Colossians 1:11-12 In His sacrifice all who believe in Him are redeemed and salvation is available to all who accept Him, repent and acknowledge His Atonement for their sins.

    In Psalms 107, Ezekiel 34 & 36, Jeremiah 30 & 31, Isaiah 35 & 66, and others, the prophets tell the story of how the Lord’s righteous people; faithful Christians are gathered, redeemed and settled into the Promised Land.

    The great national awakening of all Israelites, natural and grafted in, is symbolically represented as life from the dead, for through the Resurrection of Jesus, God demonstrated His power and is enabled to do this:

    Ezekiel 37:14 I shall put My spirit into you and you will live. [a true Godly life] Thus you will know that I, the Lord has acted and spoken. Isaiah 44:1-3

    And in Ezekiel 37:26-28 I shall make an everlasting covenant with Israel. [The New Covenant, 2 Corinthians 3:6] My sanctuary will be in their midst, I will be their God and they will be My people. Revelation 7:9

    The Glory of God will be present in the new Temple, built by His faithful people from far away; Zechariah 6:15, as in ancient times. Ezekiel 43:2 The Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign will come after all that is prophesied to occur before that glorious Day, has taken place. Proved by how it is by the Lord’s great actions, that it is known He has helped them.
     
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  2. keras

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    The Redemption of the Lord’s people, by Isaiah ben Amos

    Now, the Israel of God is everyone who believes in God and accepts the atoning sacrifice of Jesus. Galatians 3:26-29 & 6:14-16, Romans 2:9-10

    Isaiah, the Lord’s servant – his task is to prophesy the restoration of the 12 tribes of Jacob, to bring back the survivors of Israel, so that the Lord’s salvation may reach all of the earth.1

    The remnant of Judah left in Zion will be called holy, when the Lord cleanses the Land by a spirit of judgement burning like fire.2 The sun will shine with seven times its normal strength on the Day the Lord saves His people.3 Then His glory will provide a refuge and shelter. On that Day, a remnant of Israel, the survivors of Jacob will return to God, their strength. 4

    On that Day, the Lord will exert His power a second time to recover the remnant of His people from the four corners of the earth. He will make a signal to the nations and gather those dispersed from Judah and Israel. Enmity between Judah and Israel will cease.5

    Listen, in silence, My people in the coasts and islands, together we go to the place of judgement. Israel, My servants summoned from the ends of the earth, the furthest corners. Have no fear, you will be strengthened and helped, upheld by My Right hand.6

    I shall give descendants to Israel and Judah, heirs to my chosen people, they will take possession of My Land. Those who forsake the Lord are destined for the sword. 7

    Go out, clear a road for My people, hoist a signal, see your deliverance comes. Comfort My people, their term of bondage is served, their penalty paid. Clear a road through the desert for the Lord – level the ground. I am about to do something new, can you see it? I shall make a way through the desert and I shall provide water so that My people may drink. They will praise Me.8

    For a passing moment, I forsook you, but with tender affection, I shall bring you home again. I swear that My covenant of peace will never be shaken. 9

    Arise and shine, Jerusalem, your sons and daughters are coming from afar – sailing along like clouds, vessels from the coasts and islands, returning your children from distant places, to the honour of God, for He has given you glory.10

    They are coming from far away. My holy Land, not forgotten, it is inscribed onto the palms of My hands. All your children are assembling, flooding back to the Land. So many that the place is too cramped. The nations will bear your sons and daughters in their arms. None who look to Me will be disappointed. 11

    You will go out with joy, be led forth in peace. The Land and trees will be joyful and thriving. I, the Lord, will provide for their needs.12

    He who makes Me his refuge will possess the Land. Peace for all, both far and near, I shall heal Israel, says the Lord. The Lords people, set free, will come back in triumph. Gladness and joy will come upon them and suffering and sorrow will flee away. 13

    A spirit from on high is sent upon us. Justice and righteousness in the Land, His people are living happy and peaceful. 14

    I am Almighty God, for My sake, I will wipe out your transgressions. Israel, never forget Me.15 You are My witnesses, My servants, chosen by Me. Trust Me and know that I am your God.16 The Lord will make a new Covenant with Israel.17

    Buildings will be restored, rebuilt on ancient foundations. If you keep the Commandments, then you will find joy in the Lord and the Land of your father, Jacob, will be yours to enjoy.18 Others will serve you, while you become priests of the Lord, and will enjoy the wealth of the nations.19 Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.


    1/ Isaiah 49:5-6The Redemption, Restoration and Rejoining of all Israel: now every true Christian, by descent or grafted in by reason of righteousness. Galatians 3:26-29, Deuteronomy 30:1-10, Jeremiah 31:7-9, Ezekiel 37:1-28, Acts 26:6-7, Ephesians 2:11-18

    2/ Isaiah 4:3-6 - All of the holy Land will be cleared and cleansed, but a remnant will survive in Jerusalem. Ezekiel 21:4, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 7:34, Zephaniah 1:18, Micah 5:11, Jeremiah 4:26-28, Isaiah 6:11-13, Isaiah 29:4, Zechariah 13:8-9

    3/ Isaiah 30:26a – A Coronal Mass Ejection will explode out from the sun, literally fulfilling all the many prophesies about this forthcoming Day of the Lord’s wrath. Deut. 32:22 & 34-43, Isaiah 66:15-16, Psalms 97:3-5, Malachi 4:1,3, Jer. 25:33, Rev. 6:12-17

    4/ Isaiah 10:20-21 The Lord promises protection for His people and all who call upon His Name, on that Day. Joel 3:16, Isaiah 26:20-21, Zeph.2:3, Zech.9:15-16, Prov. 3:25-26

    5/ Isaiah 11:11-13The exile punishment of the 12 tribes of Judah, the Jews and Israel, scattered among the Western nations, will be completed. Isaiah 40:1-2, 2 Chronicles 6:36-39, Jeremiah 29:13-14

    6/ Isaiah 41:1-10 - They will re-join and gather at the place of judgement in preparation to enter the holy Land. Ezekiel 20:34-36, Isaiah 27:12-13, Amos 3:9

    7/ Isaiah 65:9-12- Those judged righteous will take possession of the holy Land, Those who forsake the Lord will die. Ezekiel 20:37-38, Jeremiah 5:26, Isaiah 1:25, Isa. 10:17-22

    8/ Isaiah 62:10, Isaiah 40:1-3, Isaiah 43:19-21 The Lord’s people will march into the Land with great joy and thanksgiving. Psalms 68:7-9 & 19-27, Isaiah 42:16, Isaiah 40:26-31

    9/ Isaiah 54:7-10The punishment by exile for Israel and Judah was for a decreed period. Now the Lord will make a new Covenant with them. Jeremiah 31:31-34, Ezekiel 11:26-28, Hebrews 8:10-13

    10/ Isaiah 60:1-9, Isaiah 49:8-23 His Christian people, brought into the holy Land, all that area from the Nile to the Euphrates. Many millions; all true believers in the Lord. Isaiah 66:18-20, Zechariah 10:8-10, Micah 7:11-12, Isaiah 49:1-23

    11/ Isaiah 49:14-21 - The Lord did [will] devastate and depopulate all the Holy Land, but now it is too small for all My righteous people. Psalms 83, Ezekiel 30:2-5, Micah 7:11-13, Rev.7:9

    12/ Isaiah 55:12-13, Isaiah 41:17The Lord will send rain and the Land will be regenerated. He will provide food and water in plenty. Ezekiel 36:8-12, Isa. 35:1-2, Psalms 68:7-10

    13/ Isaiah 57:13 & 19 At the present time, Judah has possession of a part of the holy Land, but soon all the Lord’s Christian people will live in all their heritage in peace and prosperity. Hosea 2:14-23, Psalms 69:22-36, Ezekiel 28:24-26, Revelation 7:9-10

    14/ Isaiah 32:15-16, Isaiah 51:11, Isaiah 35:10 - God’s Spirit is sent onto His people. The Lord will heal them spiritually and physically. Psalms 126:1-5, Psalms 147:2-3, Isaiah 30:26b, Isaiah 44:1-5, Ezekiel 11:19-20, Ezekiel 37:1-14, Acts 2:17-21

    15/ Isaiah 44:22Their sins are forgiven. 1 Kings 8:46-52, Psalms 79:8-9, Micah 7:18, Hosea 14:1-7, John 1:29, Hebrews 8:12

    16/ Isaiah 43:10-11All this will happen in the end times, before the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. They will be ‘a light to the nations’ and will send out 144,000 missionaries to proclaim the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Isaiah 66:19, Revelation 14:1-7

    17/ Isaiah 59:21The Mosaic Covenant is superseded by a New Covenant. Jer. 31:31-34, Jer. 32:36-41, Hosea 2:19-23, Ephesians 2:15, Hebrews 8:7-13

    18/ Isaiah 58:12-14They will build a new Temple on Mt Zion. Ezekiel 40-44, Haggai 2:6-9, Zechariah 1:16-17, Zech. 6:15, Zech. 8:9, 2 Thess. 2:3-4

    19/ Isaiah 61:5-6Amazing promises of God to His people in the new nation of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5, Isaiah 66:21-24, Hosea 14:4-7, Psalms 102:15-22, Colossians 1:11-12
     
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    All of your OT citations apply ONLY to the Nation Israel whose "clock stopped" when it rejected the Divine Messiah.

    Jesus the Christ's perfect work (substitutional atonement) completed His Mission for Mankind who accepts His Call / Knock:

    John 19:30b
    It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit.
     
  5. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Every faithful Christian is an Israelite of God.
    We are the Overcomers for God, His Victorious ones, as cited in each of the seven churchs of Revelation. Read and understand; Galatians 3:26-29, Romans 9:22-26, 1 Peter 2:9-10, +
    Just your opinion.
    A belief that conflicts with many Bible verses like I quote above; He who makes Me his refuge will possess the Land, and Psalms 37:29, Psalms 69:32-36, Isaiah 65:9, +
    It will be in the very place, that we Christians will be called the sons of the Living God. Romans 9:24-26

    The whole issue of a separate Israel and Church has been well worked over here and many books written on that subject.
    But the plain Words of scripture over-rides all of that: Jesus said: I and My people are one....John 10:16, John 17:20-23, Ephesians 4:4-6, +
    Thinking that the Jewish people will receive a special redemption, is never prophesied. What is prophesied about Judah, is their virtual demise and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27
     
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    None of the verses you stated said anything about Israel.
    According to revelation ,there are two groups of people.The first is called Israel and states exactly how many are sealed from each tripe of the tribes of Israel.

    Revelation 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

    The second group is said to be from the nations.They are not called israel by name.

    Revelation 7:9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.


    So are you of the first group and are one of the 144,000 of Israel?

    Or are you one of those from the second group from the nations without number?

    Or you dont know ?
     
  7. keras

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    In God's eyes, there is only two types of people on earth: those who believe in Him and those who reject Him, or disbelieve in any Creator God.
    Your theory tries to divide God's people into 2 groups, which as I prove is impossible.
    Plainly, it is out of the vast multitude, that the 144,000 is selected. Revelation 14:1-5 This huge crowd, is every faithful Christian, from every tribe, nation, race and language, who will be sorted into twelve divisions according to family characteristics.
    Remember Matthew 3:9....God can make Israelites out of these very stones.... Proved by Isaiah 66:21, where the Lord takes some of those peoples to be His Levites.
     
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    No.Revelations has these two groups decided itself.
    One is said to be of Israel.

    Revelation 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

    The other group from all other nations.

    Revelation 7:9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.


    The prophecy shows clearly they are from different parts of the world and different lineages .I see you avoided the question.
     
  9. keras

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    I actually proved my case with Isaiah 66:15-21. That prophetic passage says how the Lord will firstly come in fire and destroy His enemies. Then He will gather peoples from every nation and language and out of them, He will select Levites to serve in the Temple.

    It is only due to your wrong beliefs; of a separate Israel and the Christians, that you fail to see the simple and logical truth of Jesus standing on Mt Zion and selecting the 144,000 out of all the faithful Christian peoples gathered there. Revelation 14:1-5
    We know that Jesus is revealed to His people, 2 Thessalonians 1:10, when they all gather in the holy Land. Psalms 107:1-3
    It is the 144k that will go out to proclaim His Glory and announce the coming Kingdom, as Isaiah 66:19 plainly states. THEY go to every nation in the world, the angel in Rev 14:6-7, is just an allegory for them.
     
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    Revelation 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.

    Where does it say there is a great multitude standing on Mt Zion?
    There are only the lamb and tthe144,000 .You sure are adding alot to that verse.
     
  11. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    I am tying it in with Revelation 7. There aren't two 144,000's!
     
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