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Receive the Holy Spirit and the Blood Once or Continually?

Discussion in 'Traditional Theology' started by GoldenKingGaze, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. GoldenKingGaze

    GoldenKingGaze Prevent Slavery, support the persecuted.

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    In scripture we read of receiving the Holy Spirit and the blood of Jesus. We receive salvation once and are once sealed with the Spirit, then we surrender often and bear the fruit of the Spirit. But we can drink living water, receive fire, oil, bread, light and love... According to scripture, do we receive the blessing of the Spirit once or or again and again continually? And also the blood of Christ, many times of just once?
     
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  2. Goodhuman

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    Nothing matters for christian other than to be saved. It happens only once. We will not be saved again and again all our life. We must trust God we are saved and we have everything. Or God will get sad because we don't trust him and want same things again and again. Is God not strong? Is he not powerful? Why you need more things, other than just salvation?
     
  3. GoldenKingGaze

    GoldenKingGaze Prevent Slavery, support the persecuted.

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    I did OP salvation is all in one blessing. And we can receive others. When we are born again we receive a single lasting blessing. But we can receive more and be better off. You can be covered in the blood of Jesus many times.
    Eph 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit, ESV
     
  4. Goodhuman

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    I don't know for any other blessings. Holy Spirit is given before salvation not after or at the salvation.
     
  5. GodsGrace101

    GodsGrace101 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    1. We receive blessings from the Holy Spirit continually.
    God gives us the grace we need at any given time....
    The more grace we need,,,the more He gives us. For instance, to follow in His ways, to do a particular good deed for someone or something - even if it be just for our immediate family - The Holy Spirit gives us blessings every day.

    2. We are covered by the blood of Christ only one time. If we're covered, we're covered.

    Jesus said that if we abide in Him....we will bear much fruit.
     
  6. GoldenKingGaze

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    Eph 5:18 is not a reading for those yet to receive Christ but to the mature.
     
  7. GoldenKingGaze

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    I partly agree. If after years of teaching locally you are called to Egypt or Iran, you will not more of the Spirit's grace. And for other reasons.

    If we commit debauchery, the history of the body needs be covered, until like a pearl it is a gem. The pearl starts when the Oyster finds a particle of some sort goes inside and becomes and irritation which is then covered in pearl. The gates of Heaven are one pearl. It is a good thing to be covered in the blood of Jesus many times and to be filled with Jesus' blood. I have read it likened to tying a knot in a white shirt and dipping it into a vat of ink and prodding it. The ink is a metaphor for the Blood and the Spirit.
     
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  8. GodsGrace101

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    Why would you need to be covered in Jesus blood many times?

    Once His blood covers you,,,,you are covered.

    1 John 1:7
    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.



    Romans 4:7
    “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered;
     
  9. HTacianas

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    1Co 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

    1Co 11:26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
     
  10. GoldenKingGaze

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    We need to ask for the blood in faith with correct motives and no doubts. It may take the fruit of faith and patience. Then it is actual and local. To be filled with the sacred blood can happen many times. There can be hunger for more and then there is room for more. More power of justification...

    When covered in the blood it may not be from head to toe unless that is what you ask for. Like sin in the body has an L shape, when covered many times becomes a sphere, perfect.

    Unlike the Heavenly utensils we are unclean from time to time and need be cleaned again.
     
  11. GodsGrace101

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    I don't understand your entire belief system.
    I don't know where you could have learned this.
    We can be justified ONLY ONE TIME.

    When are we unclean, if we are covered in the blood of Jesus?
     
  12. GoldenKingGaze

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    Before I was born again I was covered in a covering of Jesus' sacred blood. It made my heart clean and drove away my fear. I was not covered completely. But it can be applied to open one's closed heart to be open to receive the Christ, just once. We receive Christ once. But the blood can be applied many times. As it Psalm 51, which mention hyssop for sprinkling. The blood was sprinkled in the OT and covered and atoned for and was also applied to the right thumb, toe and ear lobe before a certain anointing. The OT sets the pattern.

    King David sinned often as he testified in Psalm 40. His heart was made clean, but he would sin again and need to ask for a clean heart, Psalm 51.

    There was a revival of the use of the power of the blood of the lamb when I was a youth at a Catholic charismatic church in 1991 until it was outdone by the Toronto Blessing, the Father's heart blessing.

    So long as you are hungry for God, you can receive more.
     
  13. GoldenKingGaze

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    I would to have a clean heart and a clear conscience before taking communion, like to be sprinkled with the blood. You come with unclean hands and heart for the sacred blood and clean hands and heart for communion. But I doubt part of the full teaching of transubstantiation.
     
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  14. GodsGrace101

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    More grace
    More power
    More help
    More of everything....
    but not more blood.
     
  15. GoldenKingGaze

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    My parish priest in days of old, said he was born again in the blood of Jesus. In my life the blood has been applied more than once. First in 1992, then in 1999 but that was a sorry time, for I was confused by deliverance noises and hardened my heart. Then again in 2002 but with little effect. I got words around then about God softening my heart another way. My heart was not well. More recently the word I was given was to focus on the living water and the anointing, which I have.
     
  16. GodsGrace101

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    This is good.
    I cannot know your life, but it sounds to me that you may have been born again since 1992 but maybe were not fully aware of it.

    I do believe one can walk away from God and then return to God. Perhaps THIS is what happened to you.

    Focusing on the Living Water is how it should be.
    Those that go to Jesus for the Living Water will never thirst again. Perhaps you are indwelt with the Holy Spirit now and before you were not aware of this.

    In any case,,,,it's wonderful that you can trust Jesus and live in His blessings and care.
    :amen:
     
  17. Conclusive

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    I believe that scripture teaches the following: Primarily, the work of Jesus resulted in our justification before God. This is also known as the great exchange. The sinner [you & me] has his sin imputed to Christ in such a manner that our slate is wiped clean as he takes our punishment (1 Peter 2:24). In the same manner, Christ's righteousness [his perfect life] is imputed to us as his righteousness is laid to our account (it isn't enough to have a clean slate, even then we are not right before God) (2 Cor 5:21b). This is justification, this is when we are declared righteous (not made righteous, as on earth we are still sinful) before God. And this is not an ongoing process; it is a one time declaration as God brings his gavel of justice down. After being saved, born again, and renewed, I believe that the Christian goes through the ongoing process of sanctification (some Christians are hesitant about this piece of traditional theology). Sanctification is the ongoing process and lifelong struggle of holiness (which we will never achieve) (1 John 1:8) as an attempt to imitate Christ (Ephesians 5:1-2) (Hebrews 12:14). In this process some backslide only to get back up, but those who are truly justified through Christ [saved], will follow out their faith until their race is run to completion as we meet a Jesus' feet (Hebrews 12:1-2).
     
  18. Albion

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    At the Last Supper when Christ described the bread and wine as his body and blood he also directed the Apostles to observe the holy meal "as oft as you shall drink it...." Therefore it appears that receiving the blood (and body) is not meant to be a one-time thing.
     
  19. GoldenKingGaze

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    I agree, we should often prepare to come to drink the red grape juice, and often eat the bread of life. And somehow we can receive Christ' blood often.
     
  20. All4Christ

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    It isn’t just grape juice. It is truly the body and blood of Christ (John 6). To consider it to be “just” grape juice or “just” bread is foreign to the early church and through Christianity up until very recent teachings in some Christian groups.
     
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