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Real Reason Behind Hating Trump

Discussion in 'Conspiracy Theories' started by Greg Merrill, Aug 11, 2020.

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  1. Greg Merrill

    Greg Merrill Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Why "people" hate Trump. It goes so much deeper than that he has been married more than once, that he has said some rude things about women in the past, that he has an "attitude" that rubs people the wrong way, and has tweeted some things even he has come to realize were not good. It is more than just about Trump, just about the USA. It is not just about people verses people. It is greater than that.
    Watch this video to the end. If we can watch 25 minutes of TV, we can watch this video and get a glimpse of what is really going on.
     
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  2. Jonathan Walkerin

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    If we can link a 25 minute video we can also provide a courtesy summary of the content so we can decide if we don’t want to waste our time with rubbish.

    Not having a summary and just say watch this turd doesn’t make it more likely that people use their time on it. Rather the opposite.
     
  3. Jamdoc

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    The real reason for hating Trump? He's a narcissist. He claims to be Christian then blasphemes the name of God in a speech while proclaiming how great he is. It's absolutely disgusting.
     
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  4. Tom 1

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    'Here's something you're not apt to discover on mainstream media - the vast majority of covid patients recover..' ??????????????

    What? Presumably this is satire, or this guy is playing vulnerable minds for cash. Kudos for the level of absurdity in any case. I suppose you are aware that the 'mainstream media' has repeated over, and over, and over, and over again that the vast majority of people who get the virus experience few or no symptoms and recover fully, as far as is known (although there are in fact indications of longer term health effects that are not fully understood yet). That information is literally everywhere, and has been for months. It's amazing that all some character like this has to do to be taken seriously is to throw in a few buzz words, like 'globalist' and 'new world order' and people flock to watch like intellectual lemmings. Amazing.

    You do realise that these discussions about how the virus presents an opportunity to take action on issues like climate change are taking place literally everywhere, in any newspaper or news magazine worth reading. Every day, all over the world. There is nothing secret, hidden or even vaguely obscure about any of it. YES PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE HOW THINGS ARE DONE, AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT. Do you believe there is something new or unusual about this?

    I've seen some dumb vids but this one really takes the biscuit. Presumably this guy makes a decent living taking things EVERYBODY KNOWS that are printed in the news EVERY DAY EVERYWHERE, giving them an anti-change, pro-fossil fuels spin and pushing it as 'the real story'. What idiocy. I doubt if many people actually hate Trump, who would bother? People generally don't like him being in power because he isn't able to do the job very well, it's pretty basic.
     
  5. Richard T

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    In a nutshell this video, connects the dots of the war between the globalists and Trump. For the first time, I see now how they are using COVID to try and achieve their agenda. Though I am doubtful of the narrators implications that globalists caused COVID, I simply think they are following the creed to let no crisis go to waste. I do agree they are using it to achieve more global control.

    The video weaves various speeches from several people to support the thesis that the Davos crowd and the Pope, basically want their agenda and Trump out. In a sense they all have different goals, which includes the need for global green policies, a reset on the whole world etc., but their common enemy is Trump, that he is the danger to the world.

    There are some areas where I disagree in this video. The narrator for instance, touts hydroxychloriquine. Sounds good, it is cheap, but is it really effective, when there are studies that say otherwise? I'll leave that as an unknown.

    Secondly, the narrator does say COVID is real but because it's a tool of the globalists, we should not wear masks, and go to work, school and basically act normal. Here I am in strong disagreement. We should do EVERYTHING we can to NOT spread the virus while going to work. Wearing masks will stop the globalists, because it will lower infections and will help the economy. We should try to outdo the democrats on this and come across as caring and considerate, even willing to opt out of large church services and gatherings. To me that is far better than the press reporting the death of a 7 year old Georgia boy who drowns in the bathtub because of a COVID seizure. Apparently, he got it at church.

    Here is the rub. Trump supporters are so adamant against mandates that this is scaring off elderly voters and others who see this as inconsiderate. We should rather be wronged on this, than be aggressive. Christians like this narrator who push this resist agenda are playing into the hands of globalists. Globalists love the instability it causes.

    For those who have never heard of Davos it is the town in Swiss Alps, that is very secluded which hosts the World Economic Forum. Most arrive by helicopter from the nearest airport and the town is quite restricted, thus, no real protests or anything to worry about. It is an invitation event only, and for most it costs 300k or more to attend. It is just one venue the elite use to formulate and push their agenda.

    As to the term "never let a crisis go to waste." I know Rahm Emmanuel used it when he was Obama's chief of staff. Politicians have long thought this way. Often things they desire to do are not needed, so they lack support. However, when a crisis comes along, they push their agenda as part of a solution. Bush did this with the Patriot Act and probably the Iraq war. 9/11 was the crisis, but they had already been pushing for war with Irag and for collecting more data on citizens. It is a fact that much of the Patriot Act was already proposed well before 9/11.

    Altogether, thanks for posting the video. It gave me insights into the Christian thought as to why they resist masks and dispute so much about COVID. It has encouraged me to pray more for Trump and other Christians, who have been wrong on COVID reactions, though they have been right on globalism.
     
  6. mindlight

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    So your basic idea is that there is a Davos based world conspiracy to reset the world in an anti Christian format. That the world governments response to covid19 is part of this grand reset. For this to happen they need to remove Trump who is antagonistic to this global elite and does not subscribe to their agenda.

    OR

    WE actually share some common world problems like Climate change, absolute poverty and migration and pandemic and need to have coordinated solutions for these issues.

    That the best balance to Chinas rise is for America to coordinate with its allies rather than antagonise them.

    The rise of antiAmericanism around the world started even before Trump and is a major source of concern as it does not bode well for world stability. How America manages this hostility is important for Americas future. Its real reasons may well be that many countries do not need America anymore like they did in the Cold War. They are less clear that its agendas are the same as their own. Its economic weight is not as heavy as it was by comparison to other possible combinations. They may also be relatively blind to the faults of the alternative potential focuses of global leadership in China for instance.
     
  7. Akita Suggagaki

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    Trump has mismanaged COVID-19 from the start. No one can take that way from him.
     
  8. Arc F1

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    What would you have him do?
     
  9. Arc F1

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    If the Chinese people had a choice do you really believe they would vote for what they have now?
     
  10. Isilwen

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    Not be himself!
     
  11. mindlight

    mindlight See in the dark Supporter

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    I would prefer America to remain the leader of the free world , leading a coalition of nations dedicated to ensuring that freedom and sovereignty of said nations (e.g. NATO & extras) continues to be respected. Chinas rise as exhibited in Hong Kong is not something that people have chosen for themselves nor is a Communist form of government by definition. But a weak and introverted America would probably facilitate this rise while a USA connected and involved in world events would be able to manage that. It is mysterious to me why the Chinese want Trump to lose as a Democrat who restores NATO connections might be a bigger threat to their longer term plans than an increasingly isolated president and USA which is only listening to its own domestic voices and which pursues an America First policy regardless of the wishes of the international community. Maybe Trump insulted Xi Jing Ping in some way or the trade deals matter more to China at this moment in time that long term strategic advantage
     
  12. Akita Suggagaki

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    That is a question that might have pages of response.

    To start with, tell the truth about it. He has been downplaying it from the start comparing it to the common flu, telling us it will go away by itself, etc
    Fact check: A list of 28 ways Trump and his team have been dishonest about the coronavirus

    Then listen to his own advisors and original CDC guidelines

    As a role model, wear a mask.

    Build infrastructure for testing and contact tracing

    Immediately start daily briefings from experts at CDC and NIH to report progress on a core set of metrics and capabilities that must be in place across the country to suppress Covid-19 and reopen safely.

    Make racial disparities in Covid-19 response (and in healthcare and health security more broadly) a top priority.

    Organize a massive surge in community health workers and contact tracers.

    Reach young adults about the need to reduce spread and protect communities.


    It’s also time that the White House launch a set of science and technology challenges to rally public and private sector leaders toward common goals, like urgently modernizing our public health data architecture.
    'Trump is in a dreamland': what the US should do now on Covid-19


    How a review of the U.S. response to Covid-19 could get started

    A detailed timeline of all the ways Trump failed to respond to the coronavirus
     
  13. tulc

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    I see what you did there!
    tulc(thinks it's pretty funny)
     
  14. jgarden

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    There was a time in the not so distant past that Americans thought that there was no medical link between smoking and cancer, asbestos could be safely used in homes and that concussions didn't have a long term impact on the brain!

    Given that that the world is still dependent on such basic deterrents as masks, social distancing and disinfectants to combat COVID-19, the medical community hasn't had time to assess its long term impact on the body's organs and is certainly not prepared to support the unsubstantiated claims of the "lunatic fringe!"
     
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  15. Arc F1

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    Who are the experts? Are they ones that you agree with? When you have so called experts on both sides of the fence it's hard to say who is right. I could go back and blame any number of people for this virus but that wouldn't change anything. Since China is a communist country we shouldn't be trading with them or allowing any travel from their country. There are numerous ways we could have avoided this virus but Trump isn't a king and he has to deal with other politicians so let's put the blame square on the shoulders of those that deserve it.
     
  16. Sistrin

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    In other words you want him to do your thinking for you.
     
  17. Jonathan Walkerin

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    I am glad you have time to waste on turd videos. Others might have better things to do.

    Also if you summarize something it actually makes you think. If someone makes a zero effort just linking a video without showing a hint of cognitive process why should anyone bother with it since the poster clearly doesn’t hold it in any value.
     
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  18. Akita Suggagaki

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    Who are the experts? How about the CDC?

    Trump isn't king?? Someone should tell him.
     
  19. Kenny'sID

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    I was going for "cute" but I'll take it.
     
  20. jgarden

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    Real Reason Behind Hating Trump

    For centuries, historians and theologians will continue to question themselves as to what possessed American Evangelicals to become "enablers" for Donald J Trump - a "narcissist" and the very antithesis of the Christian values they claimed to represent!

    History will not be kind to this President, but will be particularly harsh to those who willfully created the illusion that he was actually doing God's work - they knew better and chose to look the other way!
     
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