Real Love on a Christian Forum...

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"Love" is always an interesting topic, amongst believers.

Lots of thoughts on it.

Here are a few of mine..

When Jesus made a cord of ropes into a whip and was kicking over tables and screaming and hitting those who were offending God's sanctuary, He was showing LOVE.

He was showing LOVE TO GOD.

And a lot of believers feel that its more important to only show it to other people. But the 1st commandment will not be politically corrected, even tho millions of believers will try to do it every day.

Saint, we have as our first call, our first responsibility, to honor and serve God.

This actually preempts "love your neighbor as yourself and by LOVE shall all know you are MY disciples".

Many carnal Christians are trying to make the 2nd Commandment more important then the 1st, and if that is you, then stop, as God does not recognize it that way, Saint.

So, look again now, at Jesus kicking over those tables, and hitting people with that whip, while He's Yelling. See that? Do you SEE THAT ?? That is Christ loving GOD, 1st.

Understand?

He is not lacking in LOVE, but He is teaching you something about correct Love, vs, what really isn't.

Another case of God's love, was when Paul turned over 2 believers to Satan for "destruction of their Flesh". So, Paul was not loving the Heretic by allowing them to be so, He was loving them by causing them to be corrected. And it HURT them.

Another case of God's love is when Paul prayed 3x for God to remove an issue that was causing Paul real misery, and God would not do it.

That again is "God is Love".

Saint, sometimes on a Christian Forum, a Real Teacher has to be very forceful, in love,... Titus 1:13 and this is because He/She loves those who could potentially be very very harmed by a Heretic's teaching. So, She/HE opposes them harshly, directly, fully, and faithfully.... and without any tolerance regarding allowing them to feel that they have a right to be on a Christian Forum attempting to harm real believers by twisting a Bible and knowingly creating chaos and confusion.

This is LOVE. It is LOVE to deal with this strongly and thoroughly, for the sake of the real believers who can be so very harmed, and sometimes for life.

This is Loving GOD.
 

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Everything the OP says is true.
But it is possible to twist those true principles into a justification for self-righteousness. Yes, Jesus displayed righteous anger. He did it at the right time, for the right reason, in the right way. Yet Scripture counsels us that "The wrath of man does not bring about the righteousness of God." A contradiction? No, but a caution.
Remember the time that the disciples went ahead of Jesus to do some preparation, and the people of the town told them to get lost? Remember how they returned to Jesus, told Him what happened, then asked if He would permit them to call down fire from heaven upon that town? His answer to them was "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of." [Luke 9:51-55]
A good rule to remember is that if a Biblical course of action rubs against normal human nature (for example, where the Scriptures say "turn the other cheek") then you probably want to push on getting obedience to that command, but when a command or example seems to line up easily with human nature (such as Jesus' example of attacking the money-changers), then use caution when encouraging a general application of that example. Always obey the Scripture, yes, but be careful to understand it correctly before proceeding.
 
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Everything the OP says is true.
But it is possible to twist those true principles into a justification for self-righteousness..

99.9% of "Christians" are living in a place where they are trying to save themselves, and have no trust in Christ to keep them saved.
Just ask yourself...Reader..... .."do i believe i can lose my salvation?
If you believe this, .. its because you are not trusting Christ to keep you saved, you are trusting YOU To keep you saved. = Self Righteousness = LEGALISM
This means that YOU are on the Cross. And to prove it, you'l have a list of things that YOU BELIEVE will get you into heaven, or keep you out.
So, that LIST< is your savior.......And Jesus is NOT ON that LIST.
 
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Yes, all of God's judgements are out of love. I don't know why you have some concern about the 2nd amendment though. We can support the first and the second amendment, I do not think they are in opposition to each other.

This issue with "modern christianity", is that most "western" christians are very very secular.
They are not spiritual, and they exist on "feelings".
So, they, being so "social justice" oriented and politically corrected, believe that "sweet talk" is agape love and anything that isn't about TOLERANCE, can't be of God.
So, most believers are conned into thinking that "love thy neighbor" means, accept everything, and any type of resistance to total acceptance of bad theology, for example.... is not "showing the love of Christ".
When in fact, its the pursuit of Truth that is the most important thing, as without this love is blind, and Christianity becomes a "tolerate everything", mess.
 
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