Rates of infant mortality in the U.S. increased after Supreme Court limited abortion access

[rambot]

Nonsense. All aborted children are counted as mortalities. Add those numbers into the study and the infant mortality rate dropped.

No way to know how successful those pregnancies would have been. Miscarriages are real things and common.

And besides the concept of "infant mortality" needs to be inencumbered by lose usage of words like fetus and infant.

Otherwise words lose their meaning

 

[o_mlly]

No way to know how successful those pregnancies would have been.

So, you think that murder is justified if the murderer is ignorant? Direct abortions always cause pregnancies to be unsuccessful.

Miscarriages are real things and common.

Real but not common especially in women under 30 years of age. But what is your point?

And besides the concept of "infant mortality" needs to be inencumbered by lose usage of words like fetus and infant.

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Otherwise words lose their meaning

You mean like the word "child"? I agree.

 

[rambot]

So, you think that murder is justified if the murderer is ignorant?

I think that's a nonsequitor and I refuse to play by your definitions.

Real but not common especially in women under 30 years of age. But what is your point?

False.

 

[Merrill]

Infant deaths have increased in the United States since the Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe vs. Wade and allowed states to make abortion illegal, researchers reported Monday.

The findings, reported Monday in the journal JAMA Pediatrics, were seen as a clear sign that the Dobbs decision has prevented some women from terminating pregnancies that otherwise would have ended in abortion.

“There’s a really straightforward mechanism here,” said Alison Gemmill, a demographer and perinatal epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, who wasn’t involved in the study.

“Prior to these abortion bans, people had the option to terminate if the fetus was found to have a severe congenital anomaly — we’re talking about organs being outside of the body and other things that are very severe and not compatible with life,” Gemmill said. However, if women in these situations had no choice but to continue their pregnancies, “those babies would die shortly after birth,” she said.

Gemmill said the new findings are in line with her own research, including a study published in June that documented a nearly 13% increase in infant mortality in Texas in the wake of a 2021 state law that banned abortions after about the sixth week of pregnancy. Deaths due to congenital anomalies in particular rose by 23% while they were falling in the rest of the country, that study found.

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The Supreme Court did NOT "limit abortion access"

who told you that?

The SCOTUS decisions sent the issue back to the states, and some of those states limited access.

get your headlines right

 

[o_mlly]

I think that's a nonsequitor and I refuse to play by your definitions.

It was not mine but your definition: "No way to know how successful those pregnancies would have been."

False.

True. Female Age and Miscarriage - Spontaneous Abortion

 

[Larniavc]

if doctors/admin are afraid of going to jail because a jury of 12 citizens are going to convict them of breaking a law... to save a life..

they should not be doctors.

Or rather if law makers place doctors/admin in a position where they are afraid of going to jail because a jury of 12 citizens are going to convict them of breaking a law... to save a life...... they should not be law makers.

 

[Larniavc]

Real but not common especially in women under 30 years of age. But what is your point?

It's about 1/4 chance that any given pregnancy will end in miscarriage.

 

[rambot]

The Supreme Court did NOT "limit abortion access"

who told you that?

The SCOTUS decisions sent the issue back to the states, and some of those states limited access.

get your headlines right

Fair point. If those rates are dropping in states where there is no longer abortion access, it shows the problem.

And the evidence gets stronger if those numbers are not matching with those states with abortion access.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Abortion bans in US led to more births and infant deaths, especially among vulnerable groups​

In 14 states that implemented complete or 6-week abortion bans after the Supreme Court Dobbs decision revoked the federal right to abortion, the fertility rate increased 1.7%, leading to about 1 additional birth for every 1,000 women of reproductive age, according to a study published Thursday in the medical journal JAMA. A corresponding study from the same research team found that the rise in infant mortality was even more significant, spiking nearly 6% in the states that implemented bans.

[Fatal congenital anomalies are part of the story...]

But infant deaths from other causes also increased – rising about 4% in states with abortion bans – suggesting that “legal exceptions based solely on fetal anomalies will not fully offset the negative effects of abortion bans on infant health,” the researchers wrote.

“The largest impacts are among populations experiencing the greatest structural disadvantages and in states with among the worst maternal and child health outcomes, even prior to these abortion bans being imposed.”

 

[rambot]

If you're willing to not protect your children from MMR or polio, dyptheria, or tetanus, I don't see why you'd care about increasing infant deaths, regardless of the reason.

 

[o_mlly]

But infant deaths from other causes also increased – rising about 4% in states with abortion bans ...

4% increase? The mortality rate of aborted infants is 100%.

 

[NxNW]

4% increase? The mortality rate of aborted infants is 100%.

There is no such thing as an aborted infant.

 

[NxNW]

If you're willing to not protect your children from MMR or polio, dyptheria, or tetanus, I don't see why you'd care about increasing infant deaths, regardless of the reason.

A right-wing member here recently informed us that even if Covid killed 2% of the population, it's a minor thing. So why would they be concerned about the other illnesses?

 

[Desk trauma]

4% increase? The mortality rate of aborted infants is 100%.

The abortion rate has also gone up.

 

[NxNW]

It's about 1/4 chance that any given pregnancy will end in miscarriage.

Actually it's about 70%. Live birth is the exception, not the rule. If someone was truly concerned protecting the unborn, they'd focus on reducing miscarriage rather than abortion. That's why I firmly believe that anti-abortion legislation (and rhetoric) is strictly for the sake of appearances and for political gain, rather than a concern for the unborn.

 

[johansen]

Actually it's about 70%. Live birth is the exception, not the rule. If someone was truly concerned protecting the unborn, they'd focus on reducing miscarriage rather than abortion. That's why I firmly believe that anti-abortion legislation (and rhetoric) is strictly for the sake of appearances and for political gain, rather than a concern for the unborn.

Please cite your source.

Most pregnancies are detected around 2 weeks after the missed period, but people like my wife and i can feel the presence of the conceived as early as the day it happens. She describes it as "like when you feel someone else is in the room).

So of those pregnancies detected at the 6th week (because 40 weeks starts at the last period, not at the missed period) about 16% of those end in miscarriage or still birth, 22% are aborted, leaving 62%

NCHS Pressroom - 1999 Fact Sheet - Trends in Pregnancies and Pregnancy Rates

www.cdc.gov

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

In particular, these articles link abortion bans to an increase in birth and infant mortality rates among vulnerable, low-income, and unmarried individuals. With calls from some who support abortion bans to also avoid “subsidizing single-motherhood,” I caution against policies that seek to achieve this objective by limiting support to children, instrumentalizing them in the hope of deterring future unintended pregnancies. By contrast, these children and their families deserve evidence-based interventions to promote their health and well-being amidst especially difficult circumstances.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2830301?guestAccessKey=15f90cbc-132d-4e4e-845f-148accccbcf3&utm_source=postup_jn&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jama&utm_content=olf&utm_term=021325#:~:text=In%20particular%2C%20these,especially%20difficult%20circumstances.

 

[dogs4thewin]

State laws that make abortion illegal do not have exceptions for "common sense".

many actually do Texas is crazy but other than that states are reasonable.

 

[rambot]

4% increase? The mortality rate of aborted infants is 100%.

The mortality rate of dead armchairs is 100%

 

[rambot]

Please cite your source.

Most pregnancies are detected around 2 weeks after the missed period,

Do you mean "Discovered" because those words suggest different things? Other than awful morning sickness I've never spoke to a woman who told the story of "knowing" they were pregnant beforehand.

but people like my wife and i can feel the presence of the conceived as early as the day it happens. She describes it as "like when you feel someone else is in the room).

That's just hormones.