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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by friend of, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. friend of

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    His name is The Watchman and he makes videos and recycles a lot of what he says in his videos. Could those well versed in Eschatology review this YTber please and let me know how credible he is?

     
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  2. TribulationSigns

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    The Watchman's interpretations are wrong. He should not interpret most prophecies with world news or events.
     
  3. friend of

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    But aren't we supposed to be keeping track of the times? When you see these things happening everywhere is this not a sign that Christ will return soon?
     
  4. Nicolaus Mourer

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    The main sign we should be keeping our eye out for, whereby we know its truly the end, is the setting up of the Abomination of Desolation (the antichrist) that Daniel spoke of. This is what Jesus says to us to watch out for (Matthew 24:15), because when that happens, the great tribulation is happening (Matthew 24:21).
     
  5. TribulationSigns

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    What things? The earthquakes in California, the separation of families in the border area, the terror kites in Gaza, the lying president, etc. are not the "signs" Christ asked us to look for! You are looking at the wrong places because you get all your interpretations from CNN, history books and Pat Robinson's reports of Israel?

    What is the true signs of Christ's return according to Scripture?
     
  6. friend of

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    Well if we're going by Matthew 24 then we appear to be aligned with that prophecy at this very moment.
     
  7. shilohsfoal

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    There are 30 verses in Daniel 11 that you can watch before the abomination of desolation is spoken of in verse 31.It is the most detailed chapter I know of.
     
  8. Nicolaus Mourer

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    Actually, Daniel 11 is a loose string of prophetic events that play out over the course of centuries that lead up to the time of the first advent and beyond, though they do lead up to Antiochus Epiphanes after the breakup of Alexander's empire into the four kingdoms. The first abomination was Antiochus IV Epiphanes of the Seleucid Empire, because he persecuted the believing Jews at the time, and set up idols in their temple. Antiochus IV Epiphanes is also the little horn in Daniel 8. However, the antichrist to come is the little horn described in Daniel 7, because you can see how their comings about take place differently.

    Antiochus IV Epiphanes was an archetype of the antichrist to come, which will rule and set up his kingdom on earth, making war and devouring much like Antiochus did.
     
  9. συνείδησις

    συνείδησις ¿uo buıob sı ʇɐɥʍ

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    Revelation gives you everything you need to know. Looking to the OT is a recipe for error.
     
  10. TribulationSigns

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    What is your biblical understanding of Matthew 24?
     
  11. friend of

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    I believe Jesus is describing what the age looks like when He comes back. If we look at the events that are plaguing the world, its not hard to connect with what's happening now to his description of events at the end of the age.
     
  12. TribulationSigns

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    You did not answer my question. What is the true signs of Christ's return according to Scripture? Are you sure you are looking in the right place where the "plagues" are taking place?
     
  13. Handmaid for Jesus

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    It looks to me that he is just pairing the events unfolding to what the scripture says in the prophecies.If you know the prophecies you can determine whether he is credible.
     
  14. shilohsfoal

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    Actually ,no its not.
    It is a very detailed account of events taking place toward the time of the end.
    You have been,misled to believe the seal of this chapter was opened thousands of years before the time of the end by people who claim to interpret correctly.But its all lies.This chapted remained sealed so that no man might interpret it till the time of the end.Or do you believe the word of God is wrong?

    Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will roam to and fro, and knowledge will increase."

    If you chose to believe those who claimed to understand it and interpreted it for you thousands of years before the time of the end,then you will,never understand the true meanings of these things.

    Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will roam to and fro, and knowledge will increase."

    Sealed till the time of the end.
     
  15. parousia70

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    When you say "Christ will return soon" do you mean "in 2000 more years" like How the divinely inspired, infallible apostles used the term "Christ is coming soon" back in their day 2000 years ago, or do you mean something completely opposite of the apostolic, biblical, scriptural meaning?
     
  16. friend of

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    Unless you disagree with a pretrib rapture then yes
     
  17. parousia70

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    Well, the Divinely Inspired, hand picked, eyewitness apostles of Jesus Christ INFALLIBLY said, 2000 years ago, that He was coming "soon".

    Random, fallible, Internet opiner "friend of" says the exact same thing in 2018.

    Taken at face value, Both statements contradict one another.

    When Choosing between which of these two polar opposite statements to accept as true and correct, Random, fallible 21st century Internet person or Hand Picked by Jesus, 1st century Divinely Inspired Apostles, I'm gonna have to go with the Apostles.
     
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  18. friend of

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    There's nothing wrong with an attitude that seeks to see His glorious face. What specifically did the video present that you disagree with?
     
  19. parousia70

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    That Modern Day events are the fulfillment of Bible Eschatology or are a Sign of anything relating to the fulfillment of Bible Eschatology.

    That is what I specifically disagree with, since you asked :)
     
  20. TribulationSigns

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    So Jesus instructed you to go out and find out what the age looks like that should be a ripe for Christ's return? Looking for more wars? Looking for more famines? Looking for more earthquakes? Looking for an armed invasion of nation Israel?

    Is this what Christ really wanted us to look for? Think again.
     
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