Rapture? What's that?

[Markwsmith2020]

There's no rapture in the Bible, there's no rapture of the church, cos lk 1 his kingdom has no end, the church remains to the end, the second coming

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The rapture apparently is mentioned in Matthew about people being snatched away at a 50/50 ratio it is compared to events like noah's flood when bad people were taken away. So i'm not exactly sure why people want a badge of honour of being bad people.

 

[Markwsmith2020]

Chapter and verse please

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Chapter and verse please

Matthew 24:37 and on
Luke 17:26 and on

 

[rockytopva]

Rapture is not in the Bible but caught up is...
Rapture is not in the Bible but a return as a thief is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times like Noah is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times like Lot is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times You think not is

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. - Luke 17

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Rapture is not in the Bible but caught up is...
Rapture is not in the Bible but a return as a thief is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times like Noah is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times like Lot is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times You think not is

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. - Luke 17

So with those verses in mind, it seems those who are not doing their job properly when the Lord returns get removed as a punishment. Seems sadistic to want to be raptured now, I'll wait for the resurrection.

 

[mark kennedy]

There's no rapture in the Bible, there's no rapture of the church, cos lk 1 his kingdom has no end, the church remains to the end, the second coming

The rapture is just another word for the resurrection, the question is absurd.

 

[rockytopva]

Rapture is not in the Bible but caught up is...
Rapture is not in the Bible but a return as a thief is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times like Noah is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times like Lot is
Rapture is not in the Bible but in times You think not is

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. - Luke 17

In normal every day times... Like as the days of Lot and Noah... And the wrath fell without warning... And the saints were taken away before hand... This is the rapture, the event that will happen like in the days of Noah and Lot....

Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. - Revelation 16:15

If this event happens tonight will you be ready for it?

 

[Markwsmith2020]

They refer to the second coming not a rapture

 

[Gregory Thompson]

In normal every day times... Like as the days of Lot and Noah... And the wrath fell without warning... And the saints were taken away before hand... This is the rapture, the event that will happen like in the days of Noah and Lot....

Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. - Revelation 16:15

If this event happens tonight will you be ready for it?

I'm always ready.
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So if we want to end the world, we should like scoff and dare God to get down here already. And otherwise pre-emptively predict each day for the next thousand years will be the end so that God will wait until no one expects him. nah that's silly, I was just kidding. God will come when he comes.

 

[rockytopva]

They refer to the second coming not a rapture

How are we going to return with Christ to reign one thousand years if we are not taken away beforehand?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

How are we going to return with Christ to reign one thousand years if we are not taken away beforehand?

those still on the ground will meet them up in the air, it's a thessalonians verse.

 

[rockytopva]

The times of Lot and Noah were everyday times.
They were taken away.
Their former world destroyed.

And the Lord Jesus says it will happen in times like unto Lot and Noah.

Taken away first
Destruction immediately after.

 

[rockytopva]

The times of Lot and Noah were everyday times.
They were taken away.
Their former world destroyed.

And the Lord Jesus says it will happen in times like unto Lot and Noah.

Taken away first
Destruction immediately after.

Therefore the Lord says to the Church...

Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24:44

Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. - Luke 12:40

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Honestly, it doesn't affect me either way. For the original Christians suffering came with the territory.

 

[keras]

How are we going to return with Christ to reign one thousand years if we are not taken away beforehand?

Jesus Returns with His angelic army, NOT rrrrrrrraptured Christians!
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man comes in His glory, all the holy angels with Him......
You directly contradict this and all the other scriptures that say He comes with the armies of heaven and those that say: His saints, are mis-translating His holy ones. the Greek word; 'hagious' can mean saints, but as the other prophesies say 'angels', that is correct.

It is sheer 'star wars' fantasy to believe we Christians will ride white horses, waving gold swords, with Jesus at His Return. The depth of this delusion is incredible!

 

[rockytopva]

Jesus Returns with His angelic army, NOT rrrrrrrraptured Christians!
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man comes in His glory, all the holy angels with Him......
You directly contradict this and all the other scriptures that say He comes with the armies of heaven and those that say: His saints, are mis-translating His holy ones. the Greek word; 'hagious' can mean saints, but as the other prophesies say 'angels', that is correct.

It is sheer 'star wars' fantasy to believe we Christians will ride white horses, waving gold swords, with Jesus at His Return. The depth of this delusion is incredible!

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Jenniferdiana]

So is there a rapture or not?

 

[keras]

So is there a rapture or not?

No, there is no rapture removal to heaven for anyone. Only the souls of those murdered, including the two Witnesses, are kept under the heavenly Altar.
The rapture theory has been around for over 100 years and there is still no consensus about when it could happen, no consensus about who will go in it, even why God should do it now, as He has allowed Christians to be eaten by lions, burnt at the stake and still now: beheaded.
This proves that the whole idea is a Satanic deception; from the father of lies.

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

We know who is in the first Resurrection, Revelation 20:4, only the martyrs, killed for their faith.
Is that your intention, Rockytopva? To have you head chopped off?
Good for you, but that won't be necessary for most Christians, as we see in Revelation 7:9-14, who have passed thru the ordeal of the Sixth Seal and who now live in peace and prosperity in all of the holy Land.

 

[Jenniferdiana]

Ok