Rand Paul: Trump's Syria strike will not 'make us safer'

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It was in the Washington Post. How is that "swept under the rug?"
Because that was about all that was reported on it. It was basically ignored by the mainstream media and swept under the rug after that article was published.
 
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The Constitution and War Powers Act allow the president to take any military action he can open and close within 90 days without advice or consent of Congress. Presidents have been doing it since Thomas Jefferson.

Out of interest, when was the last one that was started and finished within 90 days?
 
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OPERATION URGENT FURY, OPERATION JUST CAUSE, OPERATION EL DIABLO CANYON, OPERATION DESERT STORM, OPERATION GOTHIC SERPENT, the extradition of Ferdinand Marcos from the Philippines (I did the intel on that one), OPERATION NEPTUNE SPEAR, OPERATION EAGLE CLAW. I knows those offhand.

A number of unreported special forces operations. A number of bombings of Iraq between DESERT STORM and OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM.
 
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Because that was about all that was reported on it. It was basically ignored by the mainstream media and swept under the rug after that article was published.

Well, I won't discount the effect of pressure from the Saudis on the media, but The Washington Post is mainstream media.

How much was said about it even outside of mainstream media? Maybe ultimately there was no more story than that.
 
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Well, I won't discount the effect of pressure from the Saudis on the media, but The Washington Post is mainstream media.

How much was said about it even outside of mainstream media? Maybe ultimately there was no more story than that.
The Washington Post is considered a part of the mainstream media, but all of the mainstream media would have been all over it 24/7 if the news story would have been about Assad, regardless of evidence.
 
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The Washington Post is considered a part of the mainstream media, but all of the mainstream media would have been all over it 24/7 if the news story would have been about Assad, regardless of evidence.

That would be because Assad is on the wrong side of the Sunni-Shiite war, and Saudi Arabia has great influence over US media.
 
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That would be because Assad is on the wrong side of the Sunni-Shiite war, and Saudi Arabia has great influence over US media.
That's what it is.

"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and hurtful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction." - 1 Tim 6:9
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OPERATION URGENT FURY, OPERATION JUST CAUSE, OPERATION EL DIABLO CANYON, OPERATION DESERT STORM, OPERATION GOTHIC SERPENT, the extradition of Ferdinand Marcos from the Philippines (I did the intel on that one), OPERATION NEPTUNE SPEAR, OPERATION EAGLE CLAW. I knows those offhand.

A number of unreported special forces operations. A number of bombings of Iraq between DESERT STORM and OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM.
Operation Urgent Fury - Last of U.S. Troops Leave Grenada : 30 Americans Stay to Train Caribbean Nation's Police
Operation Just Cause - U.S. military presence in Panama ends after nearly 90 years
Operation El Diablo Canyon - I didn't find anything about Congressional authorization for this
Operation Desert Storm - the operation carried on beyond 90 days of the combat operation as Desert Shield (2 August 1990 – 17 January 1991)

It appears just renaming the operation is enough to justify it meeting the rules you claim, whatever the situation on the ground. How useful!
 
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The Washington Post is considered a part of the mainstream media, but all of the mainstream media would have been all over it 24/7 if the news story would have been about Assad, regardless of evidence.

Or most Americans simply don't care. Don't care = less clicks = no benefit in covering the story by a profit driven media.
 
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The Washington Post is considered a part of the mainstream media, but all of the mainstream media would have been all over it 24/7 if the news story would have been about Assad, regardless of evidence.

What? Do you know how many times Assad has used chemical weapons on civilians? From 2011 until 2015 (let alone 2016 and 1/3 of 2017), the Syrian American Medical Society documented "161 chemical attacks from the beginning of the conflict through 2015, using reports and first-hand accounts from physicians and health workers in Syria" and "another 133 reported chemical attacks that could not be fully substantiated."

Report linked to here: How chlorine gas became a weapon in Syria's civil war

It's only when Assad has used sarin(-like) nerve agents that it really captured the world's attention. And there is a plethora of evidence that it is Assad.

Do you know that napalm has been used by Assad's regime or its allies? And incendiary weapons? And recently too.

That would be because Assad is on the wrong side of the Sunni-Shiite war, and Saudi Arabia has great influence over US media.

Curious that most people in the West know more about the Saudi campaign in Yemen and how they've killed civilians than they know about the Houthis and their allies who have a starvation siege on Taiz, the place with the most civilian casualties and injuries in Yemen.

Also, the Iraqi Shi'a militias (the ones also helping to commit a genocide in Syria) are incredibly sectarian yet little outrage is shown against that or that the US is helping them out.
 
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The Washington Post is considered a part of the mainstream media, but all of the mainstream media would have been all over it 24/7 if the news story would have been about Assad, regardless of evidence.

That might be because Assad is our enemy, and the Saudis are our allies. These things matter.
 
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That might be because Assad is our enemy, and the Saudis are our allies. These things matter.

Except the Saudis are not actually political or social allies, they're just business associates with deep pockets.

Assad and Iran are only "enemies" to the US because they are Saudi Arabia's enemies, not because they've ever threatened the US.
 
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Except the Saudis are not actually political or social allies, they're just business associates with deep pockets.

Assad and Iran are only "enemies" to the US because they are Saudi Arabia's enemies, not because they've ever threatened the US.

Well, now that we've elected a businessman to be in charge, that's more than enough.
 
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Except the Saudis are not actually political or social allies, they're just business associates with deep pockets.

Assad and Iran are only "enemies" to the US because they are Saudi Arabia's enemies, not because they've ever threatened the US.

Iran Responsible for Killing 14 Percent of U.S. Troops in Iraq

From the American embassy in 1979, through to chants of Death to America and Beirut, and the kidnapping campaigns, Iran is an enemy to America in its own right.
It is not like any Islamic country in the entire world could ever be considered a friend to America which shares a common interest, like Canada or Australia or Japan does, but even compared to Saudi Arabia, Iran is not an "enemy" but an actual enemy to America and Western interests in general.
 
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Iran Responsible for Killing 14 Percent of U.S. Troops in Iraq

From the American embassy in 1979, through to chants of Death to America and Beirut, and the kidnapping campaigns, Iran is an enemy to America in its own right.
It is not like any Islamic country in the entire world could ever be considered a friend to America which shares a common interest, like Canada or Australia or Japan does, but even compared to Saudi Arabia, Iran is not an "enemy" but an actual enemy to America and Western interests in general.

I think you forgot that the US started it by assassinating Iran's first elected president...over oil rights.

You may have forgotten that the US installed a brutal dictator over Iran and supported him for 30 years, then gave him asylum when he was ousted.

You may have also forgot that the US blatantly shot down an Iranian civilian airliner, killing around 300 civilians.

And you may not realize that the US has ringed Iran with military forces.

And you seem not to have noticed that Iran's actions have only been against US forces within their region...just as the US would react to other nations operating around US borders (like Cuba, Nicaragua, and Grenada).

Does Iran sponsor terrorism in the US? No, Saudi Arabia does.

If the only way the US can get Americans killed is by messing with Iran, then Iran is not a threat to the US.
 
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