Yeshua HaDerekh said:
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Because they did not believe, they were broken off while some gentiles were grafted in as Paul says. Who do you think were "
the fathers"??
I think the fathers are Abe, Isaac and Jacob. But like the other poster I still don't understand why being enemies of the Gospel saves some. I guess it must be me.
Some verses:
Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
search "the fathers" "our fathers"
Jer 44:17
“But we will certainly do whatever has gone out of our own mouth, to burn incense to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as we have done,
we and our fathers, our kings and our princes, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For
then we had plenty of food, were well-off, and saw no trouble.
Lam 5:7
Our fathers sinned
and are no more,
But we bear their iniquities.
Mic 7:20
You will give truth to Jacob
And mercy to Abraham,
Which You have sworn to our fathers From days of old.
Mat 23:30
saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
Jhn 6:31 Our fathers ate
the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'
Jhn 6:58
This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like
the bread the fathers ate, and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
Rev 2:17
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give some of
the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it.
1Co 10:1
For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers,[fn] that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea,
Heb 1:1
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets,
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Ezr 1:5
Then the heads of the fathers'
houses of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests and the Levites, with all whose spirits God had moved, arose to go up and build the house of the LORD which
is in Jerusalem.
Eze 18:2 “What do you mean when you use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying:
‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes,
And the children's teeth are set on edge'?
Luk 1:17
and he will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready for the Lord a people prepared.”
Jhn 6:58
This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread[fn] the fathers ate, and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
Jhn 7:22
Moses gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath.
Act 13:32
And we bring you the good news that what God promised to the fathers,
2Pe 3:4
They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.”