Questions concerning God and Satan

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How do you really know God is who they say he is? How well do you really know him? Yeah I’m sure you’ve read his book, but do you really expect to get an unbiased report on someone by reading their book? Who knew God best? Satan. Satan was God’s #1 angle and he rejected God. You accept God via ignorance and Satan rejected God via knowledge.

How do you know if you knew God the way Satan knows him, that you wouldn’t reject him as well?

At the end of the day, it comes down to faith. Believers just have faith that what the Bible says is true. To me, all those supernatural elements are impossible to believe. But as Voltaire said, faith consists of believing in the impossible, because it’s impossible.
 
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I prefer to rely on science rather than the Bible.

I rely on both, for different reasons.

The universe (of thought) is divided into two realms. The known, and the unknown. These are manifested in science, and religion; the natural, and the supernatural. And since there is more that is unknown than is known, shouldn't more credence be given to the unknown?

"There are two most remarkable men in the world. One is Kipling, the other is myself. Together we possess all knowledge. Kipling knows all that can be known...and I know the rest." -Mark Twain
 
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How do you really know God is who they say he is? How well do you really know him? Yeah I’m sure you’ve read his book, but do you really expect to get an unbiased report on someone by reading their book? Who knew God best? Satan. Satan was God’s #1 angle and he rejected God. You accept God via ignorance and Satan rejected God via knowledge.

How do you know if you knew God the way Satan knows him, that you wouldn’t reject him as well?

"The ultimate knowledge is to truly know that You cannot be known."
(Maimonides.)

There is no change in Him at all;
He was alone before creation of the world,
so is He alone after it was created.

"You" that existed before the worlds creation remains exactly the same "You" after it,s creation.

Without any change in His being, nor even in His knowledge.

For by knowing Himself, He knows all created things,
since all derive from Him and are nullified in relation to Him.

One might have supposed that with the creation G-d,s knowledge underwent a change,
in as much as He could not have possibly known the world beforehand
once the world was created.

G-d would thus know something that previously He did not.

Thus, by knowing Himself, He knows all created beings that derive their existence from Him and are utterly nullified and unified with Him.
 
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How do you really know God is who they say he is? How well do you really know him? Yeah I’m sure you’ve read his book, but do you really expect to get an unbiased report on someone by reading their book? Who knew God best? Satan. Satan was God’s #1 angle and he rejected God. You accept God via ignorance and Satan rejected God via knowledge.

How do you know if you knew God the way Satan knows him, that you wouldn’t reject him as well?

How do you know Satan has known God best, unless ...................***gulp***...................? :eek:
 
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So only unnatural persons can accept the things of the Spirit of God. What is an unnatural person?

what is natural, as it relates to physical (tangible) life alone (i.e. apart from God's in working of faith - intangible).

Perhaps an example would be like our brain ... we have a physical (tangible) brain ... but the thoughts are not physical (they are intangible)
 
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what is natural, as it relates to physical (tangible) life alone (i.e. apart from God's in working of faith - intangible).

Perhaps an example would be like our brain ... we have a physical (tangible) brain ... but the thoughts are not physical (they are intangible)
Which part of that is an unnatural person?
 
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How do you really know God is who they say he is? How well do you really know him? Yeah I’m sure you’ve read his book, but do you really expect to get an unbiased report on someone by reading their book? Who knew God best? Satan. Satan was God’s #1 angle and he rejected God. You accept God via ignorance and Satan rejected God via knowledge.

How do you know if you knew God the way Satan knows him, that you wouldn’t reject him as well?

Well, if we read and study His Book we will know that no group of men could have ever thought that up on their own.

And how long did it take to write?
And by how many people?

M-Bob
 
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Well, if we read and study His Book we will know that no group of men could have ever thought that up on their own.

And how long did it take to write?
And by how many people?

M-Bob
Well regardless of your wishful thinking it was just men who came up with those stories.
 
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