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Question on EO and OO

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by RomanRite, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. RomanRite

    RomanRite Roman Catholic - FSSP

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    Why arnt the Byzantine Catholic Churches in communion with the Oriental Orthodox Churches?
     
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  2. ArmyMatt

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    because they are in communion with Rome
     
  3. RomanRite

    RomanRite Roman Catholic - FSSP

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    The Oriental Orthodox Churches are not in Communion with Rome. The Eastern Oriental Catholic Churches are, not orthodox though.
     
  4. RobNJ

    RobNJ So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish!

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    That's what Matt meant.
     
  5. ArmyMatt

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    right, to be in communion with Rome is to not be in communion with the OO
     
  6. RomanRite

    RomanRite Roman Catholic - FSSP

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    Exactly
     
  7. Protoevangel

    Protoevangel Smash the Patriarchy!

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    So, it looks like you have your answer.
     
  8. RomanRite

    RomanRite Roman Catholic - FSSP

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    Not quite, I asked why arnt the Oriental Orthodox and Byzantine Orthodox in communion with one another
     
  9. Joseph Hazen

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    That's what he's asking.

    And the answer is: "For the same reason the Oriental Orthodox and the Roman Catholics aren't in communion." When that schism happened we were still one church. The answer is the Council of Chalcedon (Fourth Ecumenical Council). The Orientals didn't agree with the Christological formulas defined by the Council.
     
  10. gurneyhalleck1

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    Chalcedonians vs. non-Chalcedonians...monophosites, dyophosites....easy to google or wikipedia up
     
  11. ArmyMatt

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    oh, us Eastern Orthodox vs the Oriental Orthodox. in a nutshell, because they do not officially accept Chalcedon.
     
  12. Joseph Hazen

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    To the OP, the reason there was confusion I think is because we generally hear or refer to ourselves as Eastern Orthodox if we have an adjective at all, wheras we're also more used to often hearing of the Byzantine Catholics. I don't think many of us consider ourselves "Byzantine."

    That might be an interesting poll lol.
     
  13. WisdomTree

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    To the Eastern Orthodox: all of your divine liturgies are from the family of Byzantine Rites isn't it? Like the Catholic Church being predominantly Roman Rite, with the exception of the various, but significantly smaller Eastern Rites and non-Roman Latin Rites. Whereas the Oriental Orthdox is a composition of the liturgical families of Alexandrian, Antiochene, Armenian, and Chaldean. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  14. Protoevangel

    Protoevangel Smash the Patriarchy!

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    Mostly, yes. We do also have a small minority of Parishes and Monasteries that serve the Western (Roman) Rite Mass.
     
  15. Monica child of God 1

    Monica child of God 1 strives to live eschatologically

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    Just FYI: Byzantine Catholic usually refers to Catholics in communion with Rome that use eastern forms of liturgy and practice, also known as Eastern Catholics.

    Eastern Catholic Churches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    M.
     
  16. WisdomTree

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    So this question is now resolved?
     
  17. Colleen1

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    Yes, it would be and informative.
     
  18. ArmyMatt

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    what do you mean?
     
  19. WisdomTree

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    Well, I'm assuming that apart from the Council of Chalcedon, there's no other reason why the EO and the OO should be separate, right?
     
  20. ProScribe

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    Its highly unlikely that the Coptic Christians will accept any new councils...
     
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