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Question from the abyss

Beth-el girl

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It's tough to say, I have teens my oldest wants badly for me to be wrong about God and the bible. I think most kids want to learn how to act and they want to know the meaningof things. I really wish I would have known then what I know now and maybe my teens wouldn't have such a hard time with God.
 
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Awww why didn't you say teenages...then I would have understood the abyss... They do ask the questions from hell...learned from the great accuser himself...still think that when my daugther was a teen, she was bipolar ....seriously....I considered taking them up into some mountains where there was no communication but with me, and that they had to co-operate for the food and other bare essentials... then maybe I could have their focused attention on the important things in life...other than boys, make-up, clothes, movies, etc...all the things I was denying them...much to the rebellious reactions and actions....Deep down they are listening even if they do not act like it...deep down your words do stay with them....even when you think that they never heard a word you said...it may take years to surface...
It's tough to say, I have teens my oldest wants badly for me to be wrong about God and the bible.
they do not really want you to be wrong about the Bible or God... they are expressing themselves against you to stifle their own convictions that what you are telling them is true...Keep praying for them... You may have to take the fellow to a christian children youth rallies where they get kids to give their heart to the Lord...it may help him realize that there are others his age who are seeking and wanting to know if it is all real and true. For we know that without a born again experience they will not see the kingdom of God....and that sounds like the heart of the matter.
 
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My children had a sort of rough start in life. There is nothing I would rather them be doing than serving Adonai, but right now, neither are. What I would have liked (still do) for them to learn from me is the unconditional love of G-d. I think it is Psalm 139-but 'if you take the wings of the morning, dwell in the deepest part of the sea, if you go down to Sheol, He will be there.' (paraphrased, obviously) I know there are always consequences for our sin, but He never stops loving us.

My daughter is a wild one--just turned 24--(pray for her) who seems to be trying to do something bad enough I won't love her. I think that is also how she sees a relationship with Yeshua--that she is too bad.

Anyway--the steps that lead to Him are unconditional... His mercies are new every morning. That's what I want them to know.

Beej
 
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beej7 said:
My daughter is a wild one--just turned 24--(pray for her) who seems to be trying to do something bad enough I won't love her. I think that is also how she sees a relationship with Yeshua--that she is too bad.
She is believing the lie of the Adversary for sure. So many are told this lie. I remember it myself. I stopped believing it long ago. Though he still repeats it to me at times. I do pray her eyes are opened to his Truth and ears are able to understand his voice.
 
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Conqueror12 said:
Humility.

Oooh, good one!

I thought about several things. Knowledge? Well, that got Adam and Eve in trouble. Wisdom? That got Solomon in trouble. Pride is certainly a huge block in our relationship with G-d, so humility would help a lot. Learning Torah would give them insights that are not available any other way. Loving each other is one of the driving forces of Torah. But ultimately, to me, it all comes down to one's relationship with our Maker. And the only way to have that right relationship, is to love the Lord our G-d with all of our hearts. So that, imo, is what I most want my children to learn from me: to love G-d with every ounce of their beings. If they love HaShem, everything else will fall into place. They will seek after Him with hearts of humility. They will embrace Torah as His will for us. They will love everyone around them with the Love that only G-d can provide. They will perservere under persecution. They will seek after whatever knowledge or wisdom that Adonai wants them to have, no more and no less. They will humbly and gratefully accept any gifts the Master chooses to bless them with, from talents to wealth to good health to whatever: husbands, children, safety or persecution, fame or anonymity (sp?).

So now, the big question looming in my future is, how do I teach them that? Obviously, the most important thing I can do is live it myself. And that in itself takes a lifetime to learn. I can also show G-d's love for them by making myself available as a vessel of that love. That also takes a lifetime. My pride, selfishness, and just plain human fallenness get in the way. So I pray that they will tap into G-d's love regardless of how much I fail as a parent. And while I'm at it, I pray that their future spouses will seek after HaShem and His love and His will with a passion that never dies.

There's so much more to say, so much more on my mind, but I feel I'm getting a little too philosophical, abstract, or just plain weird :) . Sorry for the rambling...
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debi b said:
I would like my children to learn how to learn :)
AHHHH the prayer of Shlomo, my fav.

May your children ask of YHWH the same debi.

2 Chronicles 1:10 So now, give me wisdom and knowledge; so that I will be able to lead this people.

Instead of riches and self glorification he asked for wisdom and knowledge so he could do the will of YHWH, over exhalting himself over others.
 
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