How do you scripturally justifiy allowing openly homosexual priests and/or women as priests?
Br. Max said:How do you scripturally justifiy allowing openly homosexual priests and/or women as priests?
Notice that I said priests and not ministers. As a member of a Sacramental church myself - I'm more interested in how other sacramental churches attempt to justify this practice.CaliforniaJosiah said:1. I'm not sure what the issue of homosexual clergy has to do with Sacramental churches. There are homosexuals in all denominations, I suspect.
Which is why I name either in my title or OP.2. To MY knowledge, the Catholic and Orthodox faith communities do NOT permit the ordaination of openly gay priests.
I know that the Old Catholic church and the Anglican Communion BOTH allow women and homosexual priests - but I am also sure that there are other churches out there that do as well.3. I don't know if this thread is directly soly at the (Latin) Roman (Rite) Catholic Denomination and the Anglican communion, but this is an issue in all denominations. I know of a few Sacramental Protestant churches that specificially forbid opening, practicing gays from ministry (The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Amercia, the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Church to name a few).
Which is why I stated OPENLY homoseuxal.MY OWN personal view...
I have no problem with a homosexual being ordained or serving - as long as they abstain. But I realize that's a different subject for another thread and probably another forum.
the problem is that the Bible specifically names homosexual behavior an abomination. If you are openly and unrepentantly engaging in sinful behavior how can a church trust you to minister?kiwimac said:Why does the Anglican church ordain women and Gays?
Because they are people, made in God's image and likeness. There is circumstantial evidence to suggest women in leadership roles in the early church and as for Gays and Lesbians. They are no more sinners than anyone else. If we will not ordain this kind of sinner, how can we possibly ordain that kind of sinner over there?
I am proud that the Church I am priested in (Anglican Church International) is both woman and gay-friendly.
Kiwimac aka Rev. Fr. Ray McIntyre
Br. Max said:I know that the Old Catholic church and the Anglican Communion BOTH allow women and homosexual priests - but I am also sure that there are other churches out there that do as well.
Josiah said:MY OWN personal view...
I have no problem with a homosexual being ordained or serving - as long as they abstain. But I realize that's a different subject for another thread and probably another forum
Br.Max said:Which is why I stated OPENLY homoseuxal.
I thought I made that clear in the title of the thread . . . .CaliforniaJosiah said:It might have been helpful to direct the question to those in those denominations, rather than to those in all Sacramental churches?