Question for BAPTISTS. ONLY BAPTISTS

[BT]

Hopefully the title of this thread will help it to achieve its desired result.


Please answer the following question. Fill in the blank ....

I am a ___ point calvinist.


I'll answer it first....

I am a 0 point calvinist.

I'm just trying to gauge the pentetration of reformed Baptists. If you don't understand the question just don't answer. If you want an explanation you can PM me.

THIS IS NOT A DEBATE THREAD. THIS THREAD IS FOR BAPTIST/ANABAPTIST POSTERS.

Thanks

 

[jcright]

If this means what I think it means, then 0.

 

[terry13]

1

Security of the believer.

 

[BBAS 64]

Good day, all

I am a five point Calvinist, in line with the historical Baptist thought of Spurgeon, Pink, Keach.

Peace to u,

Bill

 

[Bulldog]

I am a 0 point calvinist

a Baptist that doesn't believe in Eternal Secuirity?

 

[theseed]

I am 17 point Calvinist



Saved by grace through faith (Rom. 5:1-2; Eph. 2:10)
United with Christ in death and ressurection (Rom. 6:4-5)
Not to be disappointed (Is. 28:16; Matt. 7:7; John 6:44; Rom. 9:33, 10:11)
Free in Christ (John 8:36; Gal. 5:1)
Loved to the uttermost (John 13:1)
Ordained to do good works (Rom. 8:28-29; Phil. 1:6)
Was blind but now see (John 1:18, 3:3, 21)
Elected to grace (Rom 11:5)
Reedemed by the blood of the Lamb (1 Peter 1:18-19; Rev. 7:15).

 

[theseed]

If this means what I think it means, then 0.

You believe we can lose our salvation?

 

[theseed]

a Baptist that doesn't believe in Eternal Secuirity?

Yes, that's unusual :0

 

[BBAS 64]

I am 17 point Calvinist



Saved by grace through faith (Rom. 5:1-2; Eph. 2:10)
United with Christ in death and ressurection (Rom. 6:4-5)
Not to be disappointed (Is. 28:16; Matt. 7:7; John 6:44; Rom. 9:33, 10:11)
Free in Christ (John 8:36; Gal. 5:1)
Loved to the uttermost (John 13:1)
Ordained to do good works (Rom. 8:28-29; Phil. 1:6)
Was blind but now see (John 1:18, 3:3, 21)
Elected to grace (Rom 11:5)
Reedemed by the blood of the Lamb (1 Peter 1:18-19; Rev. 7:15).

The seed, 17 points man you study the scripture early and often.


Bill

 

[theseed]

The seed, 17 points man you study the scripture early and often.


Bill

I thought somebody would get a kick out of that

 

[theseed]

FYI: Calvin himself did not invent TULIP.

 

[LB57]

5 point.

"...Salvation comes from the LORD." (Jonah 2:9)

 

[BT]

a Baptist that doesn't believe in Eternal Secuirity?

please just answer the question

Calvinism does not espouse eternal security... it includes the perserverence of the saints.... but please I don't intend this thread to become about the five points... just what you are

 

[BT]

FYI: Calvin himself did not invent TULIP.

No, he did not. And frankly I wonder if he would be pleased with Tulip.. however please just the question in this post

 

[jcright]

You believe we can lose our salvation?

Unfortunately, I have very limited knowledge about about the five points...in fact, the only thing I know about it is what i've read on a previous CF post. In that post, it made it sound as the the fifth point (eternal security) was only for those that were predestined to be saved. If I believed that God only wanted some of the people to be saved, then I would agree with point 5...in fact, I'd probably agree with some of the others as well. However, I don't believe that is the case. I believe that everyone has free will and that with the intervention of the Holy Spirit, anyone can be saved. Of couse, once that person is saved, they would have eternal security.

If I'm wrong about my summation of point five, then please feel free to let me know.

Thanks,
John

 

[Andy D]

I am a baptist as well yet I do not understand it to this level of 5 point. I believe in free will and predestination and I believe in eternal security. I believe once we are saved, we cannot be unsaved.

 

[SumTinWong]

Here are the five points just in case anyone doesn't know, and a listing of the definitions afterwards from a Spurgeon site.

1. Total depravity (Original Sin)
2. Unconditional election (God's Election)
3. Limited atonement (Particular Redemption)
4. Irresistible grace (Effectual Calling)
5. Perseverance of the Saints

http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/dabney/5points.htm

I would say personally I am a one point. Point 1 that is.

"Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation; so as a natural man being altogether averse from that good, and dead in sin, is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereunto."

 

[Blackhawk]

I am a 5 pont Cavlinist.

 

[BT]

I am a 5 pont Cavlinist.

Indeed, but are you a baptist?

 

[ksen]

I am a 5-pointer.