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Putin says Gender Swap for Kids is Monsterous

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by power1, Oct 21, 2021.

  1. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    Agreed, but I disagree that it should have even gotten that far based on the information I know at this time or that there should even be a law involving the use of pronouns in this context being considered "hate speech". (Or that there is a law allowing a minor child to be drugged up with hormones and mutilated in the first place.)
     
  2. bekkilyn

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    The thing is, it isn't fair or just to make a father shut up when his daughter is at great risk of serious and permanent harm. (Again just based on information I currently know.)
     
  3. hedrick

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    Remember, the order was aimed at preventing the father from doing something that would look to the son like an attack on him, public or private. There are ways to publicize the situation without using anyone’s name.

    Assuming I’m right that the custodial parent agreed with transitioning, at a certain point the other parent needs to shut up, not in terms of public policy discussions, but in contexts involving the kid or that the kid or his friends is likely to see. Otherwise you have parents playing tug of war over the kid. The judge has reasonable grounds to stop that.
     
  4. coffee4u

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    The Bible is God's living word to us.
    Hebrews 4:12
    For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.


    Thinking something is weird is human nature. If we see and feel God's love we who follow Christ should also reflect that. Unfortunately people are still flesh and instead of turning to God they allow their own human emotion to take over.
    Matthew 26:41
    “Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”

    They need to pray about it if they are not treating people with love.

    You can show love and care while not agreeing. Jesus did.

    God knows what will harm us in our body, soul and spirit in ways we can't even see. Like a parent who says "stop!" to the child who is about to run out on the street, God is like a loving father wanting the best for us.

    1 John 3:1
    See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.
    You see rules and politics because you don't know him. I see love and care.
     
  5. power1

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    The abuse done to the child by a parent encouraging sex change should have been grounds for the other parent to be the one with custody. At 14 they were already enduring this for several years!
     
  6. bekkilyn

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    Well I wonder how the custodial parent got custody in the first place. Did that judge also believe that the correct use of pronouns was "hate speech" and give the child over to the other parent so that the child could be mutilated at will? Why wouldn't a father be upset and try to do something about it to protect his daughter in spite of what a law might say? To me, the custodial parent is irresponsible at best to allow her minor daughter to be mutilated just because the daughter believes she wants it, when the daughter's brain isn't even fully developed as an adult yet.
     
  7. hedrick

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    There are references in several articles to mutilation. Most people are likely to read that as surgery. Apparently the actual conflict was over hormones. Maybe Canada is different, but you don’t normally do anything irreversible until 18. A fair number of kids change back. My guess is that the father’s approach has made it unlikeLy that that will happen in this case.

    This article suggests that the divorce was previous to this issue. Canadian Father Arrested for Referring to 14-Year-Old Biological Daughter Using Female Pronouns | Lotus Eaters
     
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  8. bekkilyn

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    You are correct in that many kids do change back, but they also oftentimes regret the use of hormones because it takes a very long time if ever to completely reverse the changes the hormones made to their bodies. Even if the surgeries aren't allowed until 18 (thankfully if that's the case) the hormones in and of themselves can do damage to a growing body and perhaps also to fertility.
     
  9. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    Do you have links? Because in America you have to see Mental professionals, before you can get any kind hormones. And even with insurance hormones are very expensive.
     
  10. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    I see the bible as a ways to control peoples behavior. Cause war and and other stuff. I'm glad Transgenders are finally starting to accepted and not hated. Which people have in the past. Because it abnormal to people. And believe kids have the right to learn about them.
     
  11. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    If parents were encouraging the kid to have sex change. I would agree. But the likelihood the child is transgender. If the child is transgender. A parents either accepts it. Or the child will continue to dress like a transgender boy or girl. Behind the parents back. And live in misery. Because they aren't accepted .
     
  12. coffee4u

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    I think that is very sad that you see love and care as control.
     
  13. power1

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    If a child thought superman was real and that they were a young Santa and accepted this, a parents job would be to tell them the truth-not buy them little santa outfits and have a beard implanted. (and have some insane judge give you six months in jail for not calling the kid Santa)
     
  14. bekkilyn

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    Here are a couple of videos on Blair White's (a trans woman) channel concerning children and transitioning/de-transitioning.





    Blair is here talking to a young woman who felt that her life was ruined from her transitioni.



    This video is from a lesbian point of view on the subject.



    A more general BBC report.

     
  15. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    I see nothing in the bible as caring . It's just people trying to control something they cant understand.
     
  16. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    It goes way deeper than cartoon nonsense.
     
  17. power1

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    [​IMG]
    You can say that again. The influences that defy nature are no laughing matter. It is dark and dangerous.
     
  18. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    No. It's not. There nothing wrong with kids knowing about Transgender. The only issue, is with people hating the issue , And trying to get their kids to not except Transgender people.
     
  19. power1

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    What innocent kids need to know about should depend on the wishes of the parents. Not fringe fantasies, beliefs and morals.
     
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  20. coffee4u

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    No one is talking about kids knowing about it, kids need to know many things as they get older, for example don't leave your shopping bag unattended, don't go leave with a stranger. Knowing about something is not the same as being educated into how to do it or to be encouraged into doing it.

    Blair White's is a trans woman and a voice of reason with what is happening to children. She agrees that children should not be making these decisions.
    Did you even watch those videos or would you rather pretend that this isn't happening? That kids are being pushed into transitioning and now they are trying to detransition but their bodies will never be the same. That poor girl who now has a boys voice, she just wants her voice back, I bet they have a whole host of issues given to them curtsy of the adults who pushed it upon them in the first place.
     
  21. hedrick

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    You should read Luke.
     
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