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Putin says Gender Swap for Kids is Monsterous

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by power1, Oct 21, 2021.

  1. Belk

    Belk Senior Member Supporter

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    Oh don't be silly. Obviously we should be looking to the guy who kills his political enemies with radioactive poison for moral guidance.
     
  2. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    I'd be suspicious of it too except I've seen a whole lot of the same things already going on over here in the U.S..
     
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  3. Silverback

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    That's true...it took 4,000 (+) years for the first advent of Christ, so it could be...who knows, just keep looking up.
     
  4. Nithavela

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    You keep looking up for both of us, I don't need a cramp in my neck and nothing to show for it.
     
  5. Sparagmos

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    In fact, it can even cause people to make this kind of observation (NOT my personal opinion, but):

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  6. Nithavela

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  7. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    And speaking as someone who has voted for a lot of progressive candidates, it isn't currently the conservatives who are fervently attempting to ERASE women.
     
  8. Desk trauma

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    Hello 2000ish Rapture Ready forum, been a while.
     
  9. eucatastrophe

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    "We look in amazement at the processes underway in the countries which have been traditionally looked at as the standard-bearers of progress. Of course, the social and cultural shocks that are taking place in the United States and Western Europe are none of our business; we are keeping out of this. Some people in the West believe that an aggressive elimination of entire pages from their own history, “reverse discrimination” against the majority in the interests of a minority, and the demand to give up the traditional notions of mother, father, family and even gender, they believe that all of these are the mileposts on the path towards social renewal.

    Listen, I would like to point out once again that they have a right to do this, we are keeping out of this. But we would like to ask them to keep out of our business as well. We have a different viewpoint, at least the overwhelming majority of Russian society – it would be more correct to put it this way – has a different opinion on this matter. We believe that we must rely on our own spiritual values, our historical tradition and the culture of our multiethnic nation.

    The advocates of so-called ‘social progress’ believe they are introducing humanity to some kind of a new and better consciousness. Godspeed, hoist the flags as we say, go right ahead. The only thing that I want to say now is that their prescriptions are not new at all. It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already. After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks, relying on the dogmas of Marx and Engels, also said that they would change existing ways and customs and not just political and economic ones, but the very notion of human morality and the foundations of a healthy society. The destruction of age-old values, religion and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones – all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today. By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs.

    This, I believe, should call to mind some of what we are witnessing now. Looking at what is happening in a number of Western countries, we are amazed to see the domestic practices, which we, fortunately, have left, I hope, in the distant past. The fight for equality and against discrimination has turned into aggressive dogmatism bordering on absurdity, when the works of the great authors of the past – such as Shakespeare – are no longer taught at schools or universities, because their ideas are believed to be backward. The classics are declared backward and ignorant of the importance of gender or race. In Hollywood memos are distributed about proper storytelling and how many characters of what colour or gender should be in a movie. This is even worse than the agitprop department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

    Countering acts of racism is a necessary and noble cause, but the new ‘cancel culture’ has turned it into ‘reverse discrimination’ that is, reverse racism. The obsessive emphasis on race is further dividing people, when the real fighters for civil rights dreamed precisely about erasing differences and refusing to divide people by skin colour. I specifically asked my colleagues to find the following quote from Martin Luther King: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by their character.” This is the true value. However, things are turning out differently there. By the way, the absolute majority of Russian people do not think that the colour of a person's skin or their gender is an important matter. Each of us is a human being. This is what matters.

    In a number of Western countries, the debate over men’s and women’s rights has turned into a perfect phantasmagoria. Look, beware of going where the Bolsheviks once planned to go – not only communalising chickens, but also communalising women. One more step and you will be there.

    Zealots of these new approaches even go so far as to want to abolish these concepts altogether. Anyone who dares mention that men and women actually exist, which is a biological fact, risk being ostracised. “Parent number one” and “parent number two,” “'birthing parent” instead of “mother,” and “human milk” replacing “breastmilk” because it might upset the people who are unsure about their own gender. I repeat, this is nothing new; in the 1920s, the so-called Soviet Kulturtraegers also invented some newspeak believing they were creating a new consciousness and changing values that way. And, as I have already said, they made such a mess it still makes one shudder at times.

    Not to mention some truly monstrous things when children are taught from an early age that a boy can easily become a girl and vice versa. That is, the teachers actually impose on them a choice we all supposedly have. They do so while shutting the parents out of the process and forcing the child to make decisions that can upend their entire life. They do not even bother to consult with child psychologists – is a child at this age even capable of making a decision of this kind? Calling a spade a spade, this verges on a crime against humanity, and it is being done in the name and under the banner of progress.

    Well, if someone likes this, let them do it. I have already mentioned that, in shaping our approaches, we will be guided by a healthy conservatism. That was a few years ago, when passions on the international arena were not yet running as high as they are now, although, of course, we can say that clouds were gathering even then. Now, when the world is going through a structural disruption, the importance of reasonable conservatism as the foundation for a political course has skyrocketed – precisely because of the multiplying risks and dangers, and the fragility of the reality around us.

    This conservative approach is not about an ignorant traditionalism, a fear of change or a restraining game, much less about withdrawing into our own shell. It is primarily about reliance on a time-tested tradition, the preservation and growth of the population, a realistic assessment of oneself and others, a precise alignment of priorities, a correlation of necessity and possibility, a prudent formulation of goals, and a fundamental rejection of extremism as a method. And frankly, in the impending period of global reconstruction, which may take quite long, with its final design being uncertain, moderate conservatism is the most reasonable line of conduct, as far as I see it. It will inevitably change at some point, but so far, do no harm – the guiding principle in medicine – seems to be the most rational one. Noli nocere, as they say.

    Again, for us in Russia, these are not some speculative postulates, but lessons from our difficult and sometimes tragic history. The cost of ill-conceived social experiments is sometimes beyond estimation. Such actions can destroy not only the material, but also the spiritual foundations of human existence, leaving behind moral wreckage where nothing can be built to replace it for a long time. "

    It would be well for Americans to listen to the man rather than parroting the cynical agitprop spewed out against him and his country by the MSM and our benighted elites.
     
  10. Nithavela

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    Why?
     
  11. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    I believe the bible is just rules and politics . People thinks something is weird. And cant understand it. So they considered evil, sin or mental problem. When it really doesn't apply to them. I really don't put much belief, in the multiple types of bibles or religion.
     
  12. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    They should teach education. Which is what Sex education , Transgender's and gay people are part of education.
     
  13. Nithavela

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    No no no. Just reading, maths and a little bible and history. You know, the important parts. Like how the USA defeated the british and how the USA won two world wars. That's enough.
     
  14. hedrick

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    According to the article he was jailed for violating a court order. I haven't looked at the order, so I don't know whether it's reasonable, but you can reasonably expect a judge to be irritated if you violate a court order. The order was apparently to protect the child's identity (i.e. name and other information). Hence it's misleading to suggest that he was jailed for objecting to the treatment of his child.

    "Publication bans in family law cases are commonplace to protect the privacy of minors, and C.D. was ordered not to give interviews using his real name or publicly share information that could expose his underage son to damaging and potentially violent online backlash. The court heard that he did so on numerous occasions, despite multiple warnings.
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    "Some of that material has since been expunged from the internet. But Tammen noted that much of it remains, in part because C.D., after being told he could be found in contempt of court, had proceeded to start speaking to right-wing media organizations based in the U.S., which would be less inclined to remove the content at the request of Canadian authorities.

    "C.D. ensured that he would not be fully able to purge his contempt," Tammen said, citing another interview in which the father suggested he was "smarter" than the legal system that was trying to protect his son's privacy."

    Here's an article from a Canadian source: B.C. dad jailed 6 months after repeatedly exposing transgender son's identity, despite publication ban
     
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    Then how about cannibal sex? Sex with animals? sex with vegetables? Sex with the dead? Some of us with a remembrance of Christian influences would prefer kids be protected from all that sort of spiritual and mental molestation. Thank you very much.
     
  16. bekkilyn

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    I also have to wonder why we're sexually educating 5-year-olds.
     
  17. power1

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    I can reasonably expect a depraved and wicked judge to go to hell along with his or her opinions.
    Boy do I have a bridge for sale for you. Does it seem reasonable to you to jail a parent to 'protect a child's identity'? I think the identity they were trying to protect was the supposed new gender that was encouraged.

    "On March 16, 2021, at 10 a.m., Robert Hoogland surrendered himself to the court after a warrant was issued for his arrest by the attorney general of British Columbia. His crime was to call his daughter, a biological female, by female pronouns, and refusing to affirm her medical transition to become a trans male."
    Father jailed in Canada for using incorrect pronouns

    So it looks like there is more than one case, and I assumed there was just the one.

    But in this case I note that a kid was apparently already receiver treatment for several years by the time they were 14!! Whether a parent liked it or not!

    "The publication ban C.D. violated stems from a family law case the father launched in 2018, when he tried to use the province's court system to prevent his son, who was then 14, from accessing gender-affirming hormone treatments.

    The teenager had identified as male for several years at that point, according to court documents, and the treatments were supported by his mother and doctors.

    C.D. lost, in a ruling that upheld the right of minors under the B.C. Infants Act to make medical decisions independently of either of their parents if certain conditions are met, including that they have the approval of health-care professionals.
     
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    hedrick Senior Veteran Supporter

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    There may have been more than one case, but the one for which he was jailed was violating a court order protecting his son’s privacy. I believe your real objection is to the law, not to the judge’s rulings. At least I hope you wouldn’t object to protecting the child’s privacy.

    While the article suggests that the son could have made this decision on his own, it appears that the custodial parent agreed.
     
  19. power1

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    As posted the case I thought it was is another one and I gave the link.

    ""On March 16, 2021, at 10 a.m., Robert Hoogland surrendered himself to the court after a warrant was issued for his arrest by the attorney general of British Columbia. His crime was to call his daughter, a biological female, by female pronouns, and refusing to affirm her medical transition to become a trans male."
    Father jailed in Canada for using incorrect pronouns

    In the case you commented on, a child was 14 and already treated for several years. Does that seem right to you? They also mentioned a parent could have no say in the matter. Yet you obsess on some privacy thing?? Seriously?
     
  20. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    This seems like something that should have been left as an internal family issue than making parents into criminals simply for calling his daughter by accurate terms. Maybe she didn't want that, but so what? He's her father. Now if he kept calling her something clearly untrue, such as a zebra, and treating her as an animal, it would be different. But I also have to wonder why it's legally okay for a parent to approve of giving their own children dangerous hormones and mutilating their bodies but a terrible crime worthy of a prison sentence by calling a female family member a she.
     
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